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T206 Scrapbook on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/T206-BASEBALL-CA...item2a10296c87
Funny how even though he knows nothing about cards, it's all he's been selling for the last week or so, and he manages to mention Wagner, Doyle, Magee, etc. Also funny how the old turn of the century guy took time to trim down the sides to a near normal look. Bidding is up to 2.2K Who's sniping? |
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Hadn't spotted this yet. A lot of desirable cards in there...trimmed or not.
Seller's feedback looks bad, but the book looks good...real good. Rob Last edited by caramelcard; 05-01-2011 at 01:38 PM. |
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I missed this one, too. Not sure how. Cool scrapbook.
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I'm having a hard time seeing any card not trimmed. It's almost like the guy had OCD and had to trim every single cards - cut off the borders or clip the corners - even when the card would have fit fine without it.
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*Edit to add* I'll use the word cards lightly...as others have mentioned, they look very thin, and it's too odd that most of the T206's have the wording at the bottom cut off,,,amongst other things Last edited by teetwoohsix; 05-01-2011 at 06:58 PM. |
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Agreed. Cool scrapbook.
Bunch of Mono's, Wagner's and Cobbs. And a Weaver. And a few others. Quite a scrapbook. Love to run into one at a garage sale sometime.
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Seems sketchy. Not for me.
Last edited by iwantitiwinit; 05-01-2011 at 02:06 PM. |
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Neat item, but what an awesome collection that was before they let Junior play with scissors! Looks like there are quite a number of "homemade" cards mixed in, but it is a strange mix of cards from Obaks, Zeenuts, Mono's all the way to T206, E90-1/2, and M101-4/5. Even at that price it's only a few bucks a card but that sure would have been killer to find them before they were dessimated to get them int the album.
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Just a heads up... This is the same seller that offered up some questionable awards that were discussed on the memorabilia side.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ruth+mvp+award http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...t=Gehrig+award For what it's worth... |
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I was also looking at that Cicotte card. Not really sure what it is but it looks cool. He also has 2 Obak Weavers and a Gandil.
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Some rare cards in there, T217s etc. I also agree that many looked skinned as they are to thin looking on the page to me.
The seller lost Z$$ by only mentioning the common and almost worthless low value T206's he should have researched it more and included T217, E99, T212-1 etc. in the listing. |
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I smell pictures of cards that are glued into a scrapbook that has been made to look old.
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Me too...this seller is a known scammer.
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Sellers states that you can pick up in Nashville and lists his hometown as Hendersonville. I live in Hendersonville. If there is anyone worried about bidding I'll email the seller to see if I can meet him in a public place to check the album out.
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T206 scrapbook
item has been removed??
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Scrapbook
Dick, Book is still up on e-bay. This would be right up your alley, LOL... TTYS Old Friend Ralph
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Steve,
Thanks for offering the seller the opportunity to meet you live! I guess that I have the following thoughts on the matter. I can't really tell whether the cards are real or not - although they do seem skinned at a minimum. If the seller is willing to be allow a knowledgeable person to inspect the book in person....then I would be much more willing to bid - provided that the inspector believes they are real. If not, then that's cool - it's the seller's choice but I will not bid in that instance and I suppose that many others would not as well. -S |
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Why now? Is it your auction? Why this why now?? I guess i won't be able to win it now. So much for me bidding.
I thought there was a board rule not to out auctions here? I guess that only applies to me. |
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Dan my friend
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Most members and myself hope they don't get outed but there just can't be a rule against it. Believe me, there have been a few times in the past when I was just sick about something being outed especially as it was in a different category and I wanted to bid badly. I got outbid on that item but the rule remains the same as it has always been. There is no rule against it. Never was and never will be. We have had several discussions about it on the board. Hope this explains that part of it. regards
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Does nobody seem alarmed that this seller wrote the word "Dover" in his auction description? That he found Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig's MVP awards in an antique shop two months ago? The fact that all of these cards appear too thin?
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Somebody got some killer uncataloged cards! I finished 3rd. BUMMER!
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some great cards for the winner !!
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wow...healthy price...some great cards...and a lot of crap too!
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I'm just wondering- if he said in his listing "I think some are Dover?", and just say a few of them were, when would those have been inserted into this book? And, would they have the same pencil writing around them?
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I Think It's a Fake
I'm more of a t206 only guy and I don't know the true scarcity of some of the cards listed but somethings are not right. Like the seller's feedback - too many from the same ID and too many ID's having minimal feedback. Also there looked like many bids from ID's that have very little feedback (a newbie to Ebay all of a sudden wants to spend thousand$ on vintage cards?).
lastly - and someone may have made this point earlier - why were all the cards trimmed? Isn't that a perfect way to equalize everything? Get a stack of reprints and trim away the perforations, etc. I just don't see someone who seems like a dishonest seller to begin with, miraculously acquiring a gem of a scrapbook. Of course the worst part is this conversation even has to take place. I do hope it's real, and that the buyer is happy. peter |
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Assuming for the sake of argument that the cards are genuine, they are so mangled that I do not see wanting to own any of them. Since I would not be happy with any of them in my collection, I would not buy the album except as a novelty for a few bucks, so $10,000 for it...I can think of a lot of other stuff I'd rather have...
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I was fortunate enough to acquire a similar scrapbook, but with more newspaper clippings and only T206's. Paul Fusco, whom I'm sure you all know in the hobby, was the gentleman whom I acquired it from. To this day it's still one of my most prized possessions in my collection.
However, the one thing I noticed about mine as opposed to this one is the condition of the cards. The cards in my scrapbook are in amazing condition, only that they're glued. If this was a period-assembled book, the cards might still be trimmed due to a hyper kid. But they all wouldn't look that mangled! It's a tough call. But I love my scrapbook and I'll never destroy it to salvage the cards. And I know if I was the winner of this book, I'd leave it as/is. |
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T 206 Scrapbook
To all, this weekend I received a email and phone call fron the new owner who spent 10k on the scrapbook, he talked about removing the cards and also leaving them in the book. He also sent me many scans to look at- there in the middle of the album, was the JOE JACKSON ROOKIE CARD. After looking at many of the cards, most are the real deal, including the cut cards. the owner has a good group of cards and now- shoeless joe--I may or may not remove the cards, but what a fine gentleman to talk to, ALSO A GOOD PURCHASE.
If I end up removing the cards I am sure there will be cards for sale- I believe JJ cards will remain with his family. thank you Dick towle " GONE WITH THE STAIN" |
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Maybe I'm just stupid, but why would you be removing the cards? Were you just quoting him?
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Dick Towle can remove cards from scrapbooks, extra paper from cards, some ink issues, etc. There has been a significant amount of discussion about the morality and efficacy of his work on this board. Whatever his technique, PSA and SGC will grade cards that have been treated by Mr. Towle. I once owned an SGC 80 T206 Donlin Batting that had been removed from a scrapbook by Mr. Towle. It was immaculate.
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Ok. Clear! As you can see, I joined FEB 2011, that was 1 month after starting this hobby. I'm a new pup.
So, Towle is a card-removing genius - and the buyer knows him as a contact and has requested his services. Thank you for the info! When I get home, I might post a scan I have of an "A" graded Tinker T206. I need some opinions on the accuracy of the grade. It's either "A" or an 8. Quote:
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Odds are, if it was given an "A", it's probably an "A". But than again, the card may have just caught someone on a bad day, and catching someone on a good day may result in an 8. Bad day and Good day, are somewhat subjective in that sentence, based on which grade is more appropriate or preferred. Altering can be missed from time to time, but generally will not just be assigned without some sort of evidence to it... Basically, and A is usually an A. And an 8 may sometimes only be an A. It rarely goes the other way, without someone making a big mistake.
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T 206 scrapbook with joe jackson rookie
the fine gentleman called me about the finer details of my company- all these cards would look better out of any book, now one can read the history on the back. He may decide to keep them in the book, time will tell. Thank you sir.
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Well Mr. Towle, if you're right, and I totally bow out to you when it comes to identifying cards, that would mean I was wrong
Well, there's a first time for everything, I suppose Not afraid to own up to it Still, I would feel more comfortable with your analysis if you actually had the chance to see the collection in person. One of the reasons I deemed this to be a fake was because I had asked the seller for at least one scan, but was ignored. Since you have some scans, you can see much better than the bidders. When you say most are the real deal, it makes me wonder what you think aren't the real deal. Anyway a good score for the new owner and I'm sure he's in good hands as you will make his options known to him without bias. Would he be willing to remove one card and send it in for grading? After all, the backs can be just as interesting as the fronts with these collections. T |
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The seller ignored many emails from several members of this board. I'm not entirely convinced the book is on the up and up, but according to my wife I am wrong approximately 63-75 times a day so take my opinions with a grain of salt.
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Your wife and mine must have attended the same marriage classes.
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t 206 SCRAPBOOK WITH JACKSON ROOKIE WOW
That is correct joe jackson rookie was in the scrapbook
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