Ruth Card

[Runscott]

This one went way low, if it's really unaltered and untrimmed. Did the recent negative feedback hurt the bidding? Also, the description says guaranteed to be authentic and untrimmed, but doesn't say anything about 'unaltered' - is that a loophole?

1933 Goudey Ruth

Taking a break from the game of the century
Tigers and Elephants

[rdixon1208]

I won't buy a card that costs that much on ebay unless it's graded. Not that I would have been a bidder in this particular auction, but you get the idea.

[Leon]

I think that seller has been discussed before and the consensus was that most/all of his stuff is legit. I think sometimes ungraded can bring more than graded, when there is hope for a higher grade than it will receive.....in other words, that card has the appearance of a 3, or so, but maybe (and I have no idea on the card in question, this is just for example) it only grades a 1.5 technically. Then someone might have overpaid for it.
That seller sells a lot of nice ungraded cards.

[fkw]

IMO, having "**AWESOME**" in the title didnt help...

but my internet is so slow I havent seen the card or description yet
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[Runscott]

Originally Posted by fkw

IMO, having "**AWESOME**" in the title didnt help...

but my internet is so slow I havent seen the card or description yet
....still loading......

Frank, I almost won the card, and I certainly would have if I hadn't stopped and read his negative feedback comment first. Leon says he's legit, but as your example shows, he had a lot of the classic 'fishy' signs.

In any case, I'm looking for the yellow portrait, so no biggy.

[vintagerookies51]

I agree with leon that his cards are all real, but I'm pretty sure I've read some other threads that showed some of his cards being obviously trimmed without him saying.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by fkw

IMO, having "**AWESOME**" in the title didnt help...

but my internet is so slow I havent seen the card or description yet
....still loading......

That was funny Frank....nice one.

Steve- Thanks again for sharing your expertise. You help the hobby quite a bit and it's appreciated.

[Clutch-Hitter]

Here is the same card again:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-GOUDEY-...item2569f0f3d8

[YankeeCollector]

Originally Posted by Runscott

This one went way low, if it's really unaltered and untrimmed. Did the recent negative feedback hurt the bidding? Also, the description says guaranteed to be authentic and untrimmed, but doesn't say anything about 'unaltered' - is that a loophole?

1933 Goudey Ruth

Taking a break from the game of the century
Tigers and Elephants

Could be...I would have him guarantee its not altered. Looks like buyer got a nice deal and this guy is pretty legit. He has a nice t206 cobb

[glchen]

I think the card's legit and the buyer got a good deal. I've purchased from that seller before without any issues.

[drc]

He may have meant unaltered, but didn't have a lawyer check his wording. Literally, his wording doesn't cover alterations other than trimming, but he may have simply written the description quickly. If I was a bidder I'd ask for a clarification.

[drc]

Just noticed that in the title the seller called it "100% Original." Maybe that covers it.

[Clutch-Hitter]

There appears to be a horizontal crease that is visible on both front and back, which would make it no better than a 2/30.