Could PSA really authentic this ball?

[shelly]

I was reading some of these threads and then went to look at Heritage and found this auction.
It is an auction, not one of those previews.

http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...15&lotNo=41052

Just look at that Mantle, look at Williams, Banks, killebrew,,,
This looks to me like it is the work of Greg Marino.
It has a pre cert from PSA.
Anybody else want to tell me what they think of this ball?

[travrosty]

its not a preview, so it must have the pre-certification.

they will claim that it hasnt been looked at yet, but we have been assured that only happens to 'preview' lots, things have are not for sale and never will make it to sale.

so they have some explaining to do, but i believe they will just thumb their nose at any concerns that they are offering up live items with these pre-certifications that may or may not be real.

to me, if it says psa precertification, then it has it. Otherwise are we to guess if it has it yet or not on live items open for bidding and that have received bids?

they play games and then blame the people who are asking the questions when they have promised they don't do this on items up for bid, just 'preview' lots.

does Heritage care to set this issue straight once and for all?

To allow bidding on something and then claim that the pre-certification is on this item prematurely but they are taking peoples bids is not cool behavior and I hope that is not truly the case but I fear it is. But how is the casual collector who sees it for the first time suppose to know if they haven't followed these developments over the past few weeks and months and know nothing of the auction houses practices of doing this?

they would really think it has psa pre-certification. maybe it does? It says so, and it is open for bidding.

[shelly]

This ball has a bid on it.

[travrosty]

It does, and I don't see that disclaimer from Heritage like they put on the preview items that says that authentication has not been finalized, etc.

So what's the deal, heritage?

I can't place a bid, because they cancelled my account for raising these questions.

I also think PSA should weigh in on this too.

[Exhibitman]

What does "precertification" mean in this context? How is that different than a full LOA? Is it the same as an "auction LOA" that is handed out in some auctions?

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

What does "precertification" mean in this context? How is that different than a full LOA? Is it the same as an "auction LOA" that is handed out in some auctions?

psa doesnt do auction loa's anymore, jsa still does,

they claimed an auction loa is a preliminary review and didnt get the full inspection that a full loa item does.

now psa switched its terminology to pre-certification, and they state that the item WILL get a full loa if submitted to them, guaranteed. so evidently they inspected the item fully like they do for the full loa items, only nobody can figure out how their full inspection process for this pre-certification differs from their process they used for an auction loa and even a bid auction house couldn't tell us when we asked. They didn't say "I don't know" but jsut went about in platitudes and circular logic hoping we would get tired and quit asking.