1956 Mickey Mantle PSA 7 Rare HIGH END HIGH Grade

[CollectiblesNJ]

$1700 Shipped OBO Must been member in good standing. Will bill through paypal invoice. We will pay the 3% fee out of sale price

buyerz_paradise on Ebay TRS+ check us out

according to the PSA number - Graded before implementation of half point system, could be 7.5 on re-grade

Would consider trade but would have to be some lot

[corvette1340]

That looks like a fake slab you have there. Not sure if the card is fake or not but even if its real its no better than a 5 at most and it's probably fake too.

[CollectiblesNJ]

ok pal. have another drink

[JollyElm]

Agreed. On top is a legitimate '56 Mantle graded by PSA (not my card) the old way with the number next to the description of condition. Below it is the OP's card.

I'm certainly no expert, so I present this only for everyone's edification, but among the glaring differences on the flips are:
1. Square corners on the white portion vs. rounded corners.
2. Completely different UPC (?) code look, feel, size and positioning.
3. Different typefaces/weight throughout.
4. Type is much too close to the border on one side and much too far away from it on the other.
5. Type is spaced differently from the borders on top and bottom.
6. Different typeface/size for "PSA."

56mantle.jpg

[orioles93]

Slab looks wrong to me to. I have been collecting, and buying & selling PSA cards for a while and something just looks off. My guess is, authentic card, lower condition probably PSA 4-5, put into a fake PSA 7 slab.

[JollyElm]

I now checked ebay and saw quite a few 1956 PSA graded cards that have similar flips to the OP's. I'm talking about a variety of different players, not just Mantle. To ease everyone's mind, we need someone with a knowledge of PSA flips to chime in here.

[CollectiblesNJ]

http://forums.collectors.com/message...hreadid=846031

This shows the flips throughout the ages.

This was cut in early 2000s according to seller, an practicing attorney in California. Flip style 3. Cert Matches. No frosting. I looked into all this before I purchased the card.

He emailed me with his law firm in the signature of his correspondence.

I mean don't get me wrong I could have been cleverly scammed. but I did my home work. This cert is not for sale anywhere else nor was ever sold from what I can find

[corvette1340]

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=89073&page=13

http://bbcemporium.com/california-craigs-list-psa-scam

[sycks22]

Originally Posted by Buyerz_Paradise

http://forums.collectors.com/message...hreadid=846031

This shows the flips throughout the ages.

This was cut in early 2000s according to seller, an practicing attorney in California. Flip style 3. Cert Matches. No frosting. I looked into all this before I purchased the card.

He emailed me with his law firm in the signature of his correspondence.

I mean don't get me wrong I could have been cleverly scammed. but I did my home work. This cert is not for sale anywhere else nor was ever sold from what I can find

Once the words "practicing in California" was uttered the gun was unloaded on your foot. I hate to see people getting scammed (not saying you're the scammer at all). It's crazy what people will do for a quick buck.

Originally Posted by Buyerz_Paradise

http://forums.collectors.com/message...hreadid=846031

This shows the flips throughout the ages.

This was cut in early 2000s according to seller, an practicing attorney in California. Flip style 3. Cert Matches. No frosting. I looked into all this before I purchased the card.

He emailed me with his law firm in the signature of his correspondence.

I mean don't get me wrong I could have been cleverly scammed. but I did my home work. This cert is not for sale anywhere else nor was ever sold from what I can find

Another difference between flips 2 & 3, that I noticed after doing some research today is, that aside from the hologram changing from "PSA" to "Collectors Universe" from flips 2 to 3, the embossed PSA (which appears on the bottom right of the front of the case on both flips) can also be found on the back of flip 3 (same position) but is not found on the back of flip 2 (at least not for 1951 Bowman's and presumably other non-standard sized cards). This is not mentioned in the forum linked above and has been driving me crazy because my 1951 Willie Mays with flip 2 does not include the embossment but apparently flip 3's do. I've included exemplars of flips 2 (the Mantle and Ford) and a flip 3 (Mays) which includes the embossed "PSA" on the back if you look very closely.

Edit: This at the very least seems to be the case for the 1951 Bowmans and presumably other non-standard sized cards, which may explain why some flip 2's have the embossed "PSA" on the back bottom right corner (see link above in quotes for examples) while others (non-standard size) don't. I will add a scan of my card in the post to follow as I cannot do it when editing an existing post.