@1921 Lefty Grove Photo

[FirstYearCards]

Hopefully it's okay to post this here Leon, if not please remove.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/370863758539...84.m1423.l2649

I'm trying to date this photo, but can't veryify the uniform. The Martinsburg claim and the 1921 Groves(notice spelling which is good) writing don't make sense either. Baltimore would be a better team choice to me. I'm interested in purchasing for my personal collection, but would like more info. Photos rarely interest me, but I'm sure some of you could offer a little more insight.

Thanks, Bill.

[Leon]

The seller is a board member and very experienced at photos. I would believe the description. Of course no one is perfect so there is always a chance it's different.

[Cardboard Junkie]

Is that "Lefty" in your avatar, Leon? Cool Card! Dave.

[RCMcKenzie]

Baseball-Reference has Grove on Martinsburg only for the 1920 season.

[Zach Wheat]

Where is Brad when you need him?

Z Wheat

[RCMcKenzie]

Here is "Groves" (far right) from an excerpt of a 1921 Baltimore photo.

[CobbvLajoie1910]

Nevermind.

[CobbvLajoie1910]

Originally Posted by Cardboard Junkie

Is that "Lefty" in your avatar, Leon? Cool Card! Dave.

Its Carl Hubbell.

[thecatspajamas]

Bill,
I would e-mail or PM Rhys (same username for Net54) and I'm sure he would be glad to explain his reasoning. The posted scan is too small for me to make out whether he has an 'M' on his cap (though the image may be too washed out in that area to tell anyway). The back of the photo does have 1921 and Baltimore pencilled on it, but every image I can find of Baltimore players from either 1920 or 1921 has the black portion of the sock extending all the way down. I don't have an image of any Martinsburg players for either of those years, so I don't know that that proves anything definitively, but there may be some other supporting evidence for Martinsburg that I can't see or am overlooking. Either way, Rhys is a good guy, and I'm sure can shed more light on it than I can second-guessing him.

And if you would, please post your findings back here, because now you've got my curiosity up

[RCMcKenzie]

Did y'all ever learn anymore about this one. It seems like the pencil notation of '1921 Baltimore Groves' could possibly correct, which would still make it a nice photo.

You would probably get more replies on the memorabila board. Maybe Rhys is seeing an insignia on the hat that looks like an M. To me, It looks similar to the Baltimore uniform with a warm-up jacket and ankle sleeves.