Do these two cards look off to you?

[Sean1125]

So the flip on the Gehrig and Reggie looks off to me.

When you look at the flip under a loupe it is laser printed (yellow dots throughout), and the actual 'red' is yellow lines overlayed with red lines. The font looks off and I just want to get some more opinions. I really lean towards no good.

Also the barcode isn't straight, under a loupe the small bars look like spiked bars on the left side.

I have included my two Cobbs that are freshly graded for comparison. I really just want to get some opinions.

I also checked VCP, this Gehrig is identical to the SGC authentic that sold via BMW cards 1/6/13.

This is bad... The forgers are finding new methods...

I scanned them at 1200 DPI...

[hugginsandscott]

Sean,
do you physically have those cards in your hand?

The flips look to be photoshopped on to me. The horizontal lines to the left and right of the bottom of the area where the flips are look like extra plastic or a photoshop stamp. If you look about 4:00 from the last number in the serial number, you'll see what I'm talking about. It appears on both cards, but not on your cards.
BOL
JW

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by hugginsandscott

Sean,
do you physically have those cards in your hand?

The flips look to be photoshopped on to me. The horizontal lines to the left and right of the bottom of the area where the flips are look like extra plastic or a photoshop stamp. If you look about 4:00 from the last number in the serial number, you'll see what I'm talking about. It appears on both cards, but not on your cards.
BOL
JW

Yes, working on getting a refund. I'm 100% sure these are fake after speaking to BMW about the card he sold.

Edit - This is my scan of the 4 cards in hand at 1200 DPI

[Eric72]

The flip for the Reggie has a few things that don't look right to me:

The "P" in Topps looks different than is shown in your Cobb cards.
The "R" in Reggie has the same issue - slightly different font.
The first digit of the serial number is misaligned.

Sorry to hear that someone sent these to you. Best of luck with the refund.

[GasHouseGang]

While I agree the plastic holders look "off" and I believe they are fake, the bigger question in my mind is are the cards in the holders real? If they aren't, the forgers are getting better all the time.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Same serial number - Different flips

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Same serial number - Different flips

The other 8 is probably bad too.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Same serial number - Different flips

Once again, same thing...