Bull Tosi Auction

[TanksAndSpartans]

Does the bidder with the 34 feedback who threw out a $733 bid towards the end bother anyone?

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...p2047675.l2565

To be fair though, if this was an AH and not eBay, there wouldn't be anything in the bidding history to look at.

[elsnorto]

Not really, despite their having an 82% bidding history with PWCC in the past 30 days. But only because someone else topped them with the $800 bid.

They certainly could be a shill, but it was a moot point if they were... either way, I would have had to pay the same $810... a price I am pretty happy with.

I generally try to avoid the big consignors, because there is a ton of suspicious bidding activity with Probstein and PWCC, but for hard to find items I don't have that luxury.

Snorto~

[jefferyepayne]

Originally Posted by elsnorto

Not really, despite their having an 82% bidding history with PWCC in the past 30 days. But only because someone else topped them with the $800 bid.

They certainly could be a shill, but it was a moot point if they were... either way, I would have had to pay the same $810... a price I am pretty happy with.

I generally try to avoid the big consignors, because there is a ton of suspicious bidding activity with Probstein and PWCC, but for hard to find items I don't have that luxury.

Snorto~

Agreed. That is a good price for that card so worth it!

jeff

[TanksAndSpartans]

My thought is someone wanted to make sure it sold for at least 733. I agree its a moot point as the card is worth more - so you could think of 733 as the hidden reserve, but I don't like it.

Anyway, nice pick up! Can we switch things up and talk about the Tosi? I paid a premium for it over the other high numbers as well, but no one has really been able to offer me a satisfactory explanation as to why. Wasn't the Tosi printed in equal quantities with say.... the Isola (just to pick one)? Unless someone is hoarding them, why do they sell at such a premium? I think an Ernie Smith is similar condition (probably the centering wasn't as good as this Tosi though - this was an auction from a major consigner for a PSA 3 I'm thinking of) recently sold for less than 50% of that price.....

[jefferyepayne]

The two lowest pop cards in the Chicle set are the Tosi and Kostka. No one is sure why. Perhaps since neither one was a star, they weren't as collectible as the others. Of course, both are SPs but are even a bit lower in total POP than the other SPs.

jeff

[jefferyepayne]

A bigger question to me is why Kostka is in both the Chicle set AND the premiums. Does this mean that if Chicle had produced 240 cards as originally planned, that everybody in the premium set would have been included? And would their images have been the same?





If so, we have an idea as to what some of the other Chicle cards would have looked like by looking at the premiums.

jeff