Comments and thoughts needed re: PSA grading

[Sidepocket]

I would love to know your thoughts about PSA grading and their all too common reject of "min size". I posted this on the PSA board but of course it's their site and everyone has to be careful about criticizing PSA, so I'm hoping to get more insight here.

I cracked out these cards (along with several others) and subbed them hoping for some bumps. Instead I got what you see below. Five previously graded cards all rejected for size (well, one was for altered stock). How can this happen? Lack of quality control? Is the grading game rigged? Comments and advice would be appreciated.

BTW, I emailed them a week ago and have heard nothing. I also received nothing from them with regards to refunding my grading fees either by voucher or some other method. Very disappointing.

Before and after pics:






Don't have a "before" scan of this but it was a PSA 6:

[KCRfan1]

I'm sorry to ask the obvious, but do the cards measure correctly? Otherwise, resubmit, and you may just have to take what grade given. Too bad, nice grades already...

[Sidepocket]

I didn't measure them myself since they'd already been graded once.

[pokerplyr80]

That certainly is bad luck, unless you submitted another 500 cards with those 5. I know a lot of people crack out cards and resubmit as you did, but this is a good example of why I've always been afraid to.

I have had a card I sent in raw rejected for minsize. I guess it's a card that shows no signs of trimming but was miscut too short at the factory.

[esehombre]

I am not real familiar with the grading game or companies but i just want to make sure i understand this.

1) You submitted an already numerically graded card by PSA (presumably hoping for a half grade bump?)

2) They received the card that they had previously graded and then claimed they could not holder the card because it did not meet their own minimum size requirements?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Well different grader different results. Go to trial in court, different judge or jury different results. I always wonder why sellers say in ebay 'candidate for a bump, I may just send in myself' I never believe that because things like what happened to you can happen to them.

There is subjective eye appeal and can be a major difference of opinion, however you would think minimum size requirement is a very objective thing. They should give you an explanation. I have heard people resending cards several times so maybe you want to spin the wheel again...however I think PSA is pretty consistent these days so was surprised to see that if your story is true.

at least they should take your previous grades from the POP I always felt POP was more real in the 8s and above category in cards from the 50s but maybe there are more ghost 7s than I realized..

[KCRfan1]

Originally Posted by Sidepocket

I didn't measure them myself since they'd already been graded once.

I would suggest getting out a ruler and measuring the cards. That will answer you question about the card size very easily. Perhaps I'm telling you something you already know, but minsizerq means the card did not meet the minimum size dimensions. The cards may have been part of a presentation set, or vending box, and may not have been pulled from a wax pack.

Measure them out and let us know the dimensions. If the cards measure out a bit small, no need to resubmit. Wasting money at that point.