Polar Bear Tobacco

[Ribbens]

Need some help identifying this Polar Bear tobacco "pack". I believe it contains a T206 tobacco card, thanks for any advice here.

[sreader3]

First of all, look at the tax stamp and tell us the date.

If it is a 1909 stamp, you have a good chance.

If it is a 1910 stamp, you have a small chance.

Else, you have very little chance.

Edited to add: Paging Jon Canfield.

[rdwyer]

Has the right factory number, district and state. So the date of the tax stamp should be 1909 or 1910 as mentioned above.

[iwantitiwinit]

Open it up and let's see!!!!!

[sreader3]

I should have also paged Richard Dwyer.

[gemmint77]

Cool pack! Nice pick up. Hope to see you open it.

[rdwyer]

If everything matches, I would open because it might contain 5 cards!

[bbcard1]

Odds of staining due to the loose leaf tobacco would be very high...

[rdwyer]

Odds of staining due to the loose leaf tobacco would be very high...

I'll take a stained Cobb any way I can get it.

[whelenfan]

open it already!!!

[irishdenny]

Originally Posted by rdwyer

If everything matches, I would open because it might contain 5 cards!

Rich, Jon & Gentleman...

With the Possibility of Any Pack having 5 Cards in it,
Wouldn't Weighing the Pack be Wise!?

Might You Guyz Know What a Pack
Of Smoke's From 1909, 1910 Weigh wit 1 Card in it?

Wit No Cards...?
Wit 2 or More Cards in it?

[iwantitiwinit]

Moisture content at this stage will cause packs with similar contents to vary in weight, a pack with 1 card might weigh the same as a pack with more cards depending on how tightly the package is sealed and where it was stored.

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by Ribbens

Need some help identifying this Polar Bear tobacco "pack". I believe it contains a T206 tobacco card, thanks for any advice here.

WOW That's amazing if you do decide to open it make a video and send us the link!!!

[xplainer]

Yeah Josh,
Sure beats my 79 wax pack production.

Curious to see what happens here.

[pawpawdiv9]

Rip it open.
Maybe this Guy on Ebay will do the same with his Polar Bear pack:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/POLAR-BEAR-T...kAAOSwd0BVxOIh
Its stated as 1909, but i had a hard time zooming in, to me almost looks like 1911...IDK??
Just trying to get a idea of what you guys are talking about, stuff like this is interesting.

[Ribbens]

I was able to inspect this Polar Tobacco "pack" tonight in the Boston area and sorry to say the " red overprint" was not able to be viewed with any degree of certainty as to the exact date. I took a pass on this item. Thanks for all your help with this item it was "a good run" as they say.......

[canjond]

Here's a scan of a PB pack to illustrate the overprint. Despite th 1910 tax stamp, this one is dated 1931.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Ribbens

I was able to inspect this Polar Tobacco "pack" tonight in the Boston area and sorry to say the " red overprint" was not able to be viewed with any degree of certainty as to the exact date. I took a pass on this item. Thanks for all your help with this item it was "a good run" as they say.......

And it was a good learning experience on packs and overprints. ...Generally speaking a pack can't be specifically dated without an overprint on the stamp. Sellers seem to always pick the dates of packs without stamps as dates the cards came in them, for some reason.

[T205 GB]

Anyone know anything about a sample pack?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/POLAR-BEAR-T...kAAOSwd0BVxOIh

[canjond]

I think it's extremely unlikely a card would be packaged with the sample pack. It's a neat piece for sure, but there is no evidence to indicate distribution was made with sample packs.

[canjond]

Here is one other amazing Polar Bear piece that unfortunately was likely stolen. I purchased this in December off of eBay. The Polar Bear crate had to be shipped via UPS in its own custom-made plywood crate that was approximately 3.5 feet long, by 2.5 feet high, and weighed 75 pounds. It left Ohio (where the seller was located) and made it to a sorting facility in Mount Olive, New Jersey before it disappeared (it was logged into the UPS tracking system as arriving, but it was never logged out of the system). After 3 weeks of frustrating calls with UPS, UPS told me it was lost forever and they were going to stop searching for it. I can't see how a package that large is lost, so I still believe it may have been stolen. If anyone ever happens to see this, please let me know!

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by canjond

I think it's extremely unlikely a card would be packaged with the sample pack. It's a neat piece for sure, but there is no evidence to indicate distribution was made with sample packs.

Here is the answer I got from the seller about any overprints.

does the pack have a red overprint date on it? If so what is it?

I will double-check. But I do not believe it does. I also must note, this is a pre-Lorillard Polar Bear pack! When a PB pack even does become available out there, they are 99% always post-ATC deregulation Lorillard packs.