Forgery

[shelly]

I was looking through Heritage and found this.

http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/jo...umbnail-071515

I called and told them it is a Marino forgery. It has been pre approved by psa.

[RichardSimon]

How did that one get into Heritage?

[Klrdds]

Good eye on catching that. The Mantle is awful, a very poor forgery !!! It doesn't surprise me that PSA has screwed up again the question is will it get pulled and will PSA and that idiot Grad admit they screwed up. Pre approved or not.

[Leon]

Nice catch guys. I have a feeling this will be taken down.....

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Klrdds

Good eye on catching that. The Mantle is awful, a very poor forgery !!! It doesn't surprise me that PSA has screwed up again the question is will it get pulled and will PSA and that idiot Grad admit they screwed up. Pre approved or not.

I doubt very much if PSA authenticated that.

It's one of those Pre-Certs. PSA does not do Pre-Certs.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

I doubt very much if PSA authenticated that.

It's one of those Pre-Certs. PSA does not do Pre-Certs.

Chris you are wrong. Here is there description of the piece.

Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle and Ted Williams Multi-Signed Oversized Photograph. Offered here is an oversized photograph signed by Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle and Ted Williams. Signed by each ink averaging EX quality, it measures at 16x20". Pre-Certified by PSA/DNA.

[Klrdds]

here is the description directly off the website's listing :

DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle and Ted Williams Multi-Signed Oversized Photograph. Offered here is an oversized photograph signed by Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle and Ted Williams. Signed by each ink averaging EX quality, it measures at 16x20". Pre-Certified by PSA/DNA.

Guide Value or Estimate: $400 - $600.

Just as posted by Shelly forgive the redundence.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by shelly

Chris you are wrong. Here is there description of the piece.

Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle and Ted Williams Multi-Signed Oversized Photograph. Offered here is an oversized photograph signed by Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle and Ted Williams. Signed by each ink averaging EX quality, it measures at 16x20". Pre-Certified by PSA/DNA.

Shelly, with all due respect, just because Heritage writes "Pre-Certified" by PSA doesn't mean that PSA "Pre-Certified" it.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

I doubt very much if PSA authenticated that.

It's one of those Pre-Certs. PSA does not do Pre-Certs.

Chris,

Sorry but you are wrong on this one.
RR Auctions is almost totally pre-certed by PSA.
The pre-cert is listed on most of the pages of RR Auctions.
I have been a bidder and consignor with RR and I know that PSA has been doing that for many years for RR.

http://www.rrauction.com/bidtracker_detail.cfm?IN=823
http://www.rrauction.com/bidtracker_detail.cfm?IN=822

[thetruthisoutthere]

The status on that auction is "Withdrawn."

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

The status on that auction is "Withdrawn."

Thanks to Shelly.
The bid was $260 when Shelly contacted them.

[irv]

The more I read about PSA the more I dislike them.

And to think, there was nothing but a huge line up at the National for their "Expertise"

[Leon]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

The status on that auction is "Withdrawn."

I had a feeling it would be...

[Bcwcardz]

All this crap is forged and I don't trust any authentication service. They are as much an expert as myself. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has got one. The auction house only took it down because they got caught otherwise it's all good. Fraud is rampant in this industry and it's very very sad. It's all about the $$$$. I don't get how they keep peddling crap that isn't real. These people have an endless supply of HOF autographs. That's a little suspect. I remember back in the 90s some joker wanted to pay me for some auto repair work I did with memorabilia he had aquired. It was a Kobe and Magic auto which was a horrible forgery. He told me the guy he got it from had a warehouse full of stuff like that. It just dumbfounded me that people bought this and there was no consequences for selling it. Totally amazing and it's still going strong. 😢

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[Republicaninmass]

Once it went for a real authentication, the buyer would get his money back. I doubt any of these were even looked at by psa. It's easier, and cheaper to write pre-certification, and just refund if they don't pass.