Heritage auctions a joke

[sflayank]

I just won one psa card for $65
Final cost 97.50
Thats right 97.50
14 bp
13 s&h
5.50 sales tax
Now i know we've discussed them before
Obviously could be shipped insured for $3.50
Also if you win a card for less than 70 you still have to pay 14 bp
So if ypu win card for 50 bp is 28%
Also another "criminal act" they charge sales tax on the bp and the shipping and handling
I didnt know i was purchasing the bp and the handling
Why didnt the south florida collection go to them...thats part of it
Along with the fact they have the worst website ever designed

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by sflayank

Along with the fact they have the worst website ever designed

Hunt’s has something to say about that! I like Hunt’s but their website feels like it is from 1995.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Which costs did you not know about when you bid on the card you won for $79?

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Which costs did you not know about when you bid on the card you won for $79?

+10000

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[iwantitiwinit]

Larry I agree those costs seem excessive but they are clearly spelled out in the auction specifics. You are free to bid or not bid so I don't see there's really much of a valid gripe.

[Fballguy]

I paid them via paypal on May 21st. Haven't heard a word. Called them yesterday and they confirmed my item hasn't shipped yet. Now that's a joke.

[Bpm0014]

Along with the fact they have the worst website ever designed

I couldn't agree more. I belong to every auction house imaginable and Heritage by far is the most difficult to figure out! It is so confusing.

[Shankweather]

The shipping and minimum buyer's premium are killers for low price auctions. Moral of the story, only buy big time cards from HA.

[drmondobueno]

Even though everything is disclosed? Or did you not read up? Or did it just not sink in?

My last purchase through Heritage was a while back and the total juice- sales tax, S&H, premium, exceeded 28% of the bid price. At the end of the day I realized, even though I bid what I was comfortable with, that the whole experience with Heritage left a bad taste in my mouth and I did not see the value in the “service” provided by Heritage. Just the way I see the world.

I have not done business with Heritage since, especially after thinking through their disclosure of employee right to bid. Just because it is legal does not make it right.

[sflayank]

Everyone here knows what its about
GREED...
why charge the same bp for 50 card as a 70 card..GREED
.btw...after i saw the invoice it took 20 minutes on their website to find their rules
Ive been bidding in all auctions as u guys know for 20 years...
So i ended up paying 50% over the price of the card
Imagine winning a 50 card in NY
50 +14 +13+6...$83
66% over the price of the card
GREED GREED GREED

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

I paid them via paypal on May 21st. Haven't heard a word. Called them yesterday and they confirmed my item hasn't shipped yet. Now that's a joke.

In my experience they are uneven. It tends to be better if you have won lots before, or win something more substantial, but not always.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

In my experience they are uneven. It tends to be better if you have won lots before, or win something more substantial, but not always.

Yeah...It's my first time with them and not a huge purchase.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

Larry I agree those costs seem excessive but they are clearly spelled out in the auction specifics. You are free to bid or not bid so I don't see there's really much of a valid gripe.

Using this logic, nobody should gripe about paying their taxes. It's all spelled out for you. Not to start this again....but just because something "is"...doesn't make it ok.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Using this logic, nobody should gripe about paying their taxes. It's all spelled out for you. Not to start this again....but just because something "is"...doesn't make it ok.

Griping about taxes is All-American; but griping at a private company for complying with the tax laws is misplaced. You need to bitch out the state government, not Heritage.

[iwantitiwinit]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Using this logic, nobody should gripe about paying their taxes. It's all spelled out for you. Not to start this again....but just because something "is"...doesn't make it ok.

You don't have the option to pay or not pay taxes, you do have the option to bid or not bid. Griping about something you have no control over is a bit different than griping about something you can avoid.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

You don't have the option to pay or not pay taxes, you do have the option to bid or not bid. Griping about something you have no control over is a bit different than griping about something you can avoid.

You can't avoid it if they have an item you want and nobody else does.

It's funny that people defend the right of AH to price gouge...but more than likely would be outraged at the Gas stations who charged $10 for a gallon of gas and $7 for a bottle of water a few years ago during Hurricane Sandy. Maybe if the gas stations only charged $8.33 per gallon with 20% buyers premium it wouldn't have made the news.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Using this logic, nobody should gripe about paying their taxes. It's all spelled out for you. Not to start this again....but just because something "is"...doesn't make it ok.

Taxes aren't voluntary, I don't understand how you can't see the difference.

[markf31]

Originally Posted by sflayank

Also another "criminal act" they charge sales tax on the bp and the shipping and handling
I didnt know i was purchasing the bp and the handling

It's not criminal, its the law. Sales tax is based upon what a buyer is paying, in total, and not what the auctioneer is charging his client, nor what the seller is receiving.

Normally, auctioneers where a buyer’s premium is charged include in their terms and conditions that the hammer price plus the buyer’s premium constitutes the total purchase price. Sales tax is charged on the total purchase price.

Additionally, as I understand it, shipping is not taxable if listed separately, but handling or servicing is taxable. So when you have a combined shipping and handling/servicing charge, shipping becomes taxable.

Neither of those two acts are criminal, in fact its quite the opposite that it would be criminal for Heritage to NOT handle their invoices in that manner.

[x2drich2000]

and it can be explained again - read the T&C and know the tax laws for your state before you bid and if you don't like it, don't bid.

$14 bp - "Minimum Buyer’s Premium per lot is $19, except for Sports Collectibles lots wherein the Buyer’s Premium is $14 per lot." - https://sports.ha.com/c/ref/terms-an....zx?view=terms

$13 = $6.40 for shipping to residential invoice under $199 + $6.43 for the first item (sport card graded) - https://sports.ha.com/c/shipping.zx

5.50 sales tax - HA can't break the law - http://floridarevenue.com/faq/Pages/...D=1277&IsDlg=1

[egbeachley]

Because everyone else considered the minimum BP and relatively high shipping, it’s quite possible you won the card for $15 - $20 less than expected. In this case your shipping and tax were free.