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Old 07-14-2019, 11:28 AM
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Hello all. I think I've discovered a 3rd T206 Old Mill back that is Blue. Looks identical to the Walsh and Powell examples that were discovered in 2012 and 2019 respectively. But this one should be more valuable than the Walsh card for 2 reasons: 1) it has an Elberfeld Washington portrait as its front and 2) its condition is at least VG. I think the Walsh example was not in as good of condition. Any interest out there? What might something like that be worth?
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Old 07-14-2019, 11:32 AM
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Cant wait to see the pics

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Old 07-14-2019, 12:11 PM
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I don’t think I’m allowed to post pictures because it has been consigned but a few experts saw it at the Chantilly show this weekend and thought it was authentic. It may be on display at the upcoming National. Let me know if I can answer any other questions about it. I remember buying it from a very reputable card dealer years ago and have had it in my collection for the past 25 years.
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Old 07-14-2019, 12:16 PM
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Howard, I spoke with Tom about the card at Chantilly. He showed me pics and said he was going to put us in touch. I am interested. But if you consigned it, then we have little to talk about. If you have not consigned it, please email me at rhotchkiss@horizonlandco.com. I understand that SGC declined to opine on the card, which is a tad concerning. Better if slabbed SGC/PSA

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Old 07-14-2019, 12:39 PM
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I will be bringing the Campbell to Chicago for collectors(and TPG's) to examine on behalf of it's owner. As well as several other T206 oddities and rarities(from various parties).
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Old 07-14-2019, 01:14 PM
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I'll look for you Scott.
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Old 07-14-2019, 01:06 PM
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They don't own your pics - or your card. Post away. They should want the extra attention anyway.


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I'll have to check on this and get back to you. Would love to do so because I think this card is fabulous and better than the other two examples that are known to exist. I wish there were others so the grading services would more readily and fully validate this card for all collectors. Best regards and thanks for your interest. Howard
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Old 07-14-2019, 02:21 PM
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I looked in person. Card is for sure blue. We also compared to it my Washington Elberfeld OM and it's noticeably a different color.

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I don’t think I’m allowed to post pictures because it has been consigned but a few experts saw it at the Chantilly show this weekend and thought it was authentic. It may be on display at the upcoming National. Let me know if I can answer any other questions about it. I remember buying it from a very reputable card dealer years ago and have had it in my collection for the past 25 years.
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Old 07-14-2019, 05:51 PM
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I have spoke with the owner, let's see how it plays out. My opinion has changed a bit after speaking with him for a long time....

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A number of us have seen it. This is NOT a shaggy dog story. Pictures will likely be coming shortly.
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I am in agreement that the “wet” looking front indicates that some environmental factor altered the colour of the card. For me when I see a “missing red” version that has severe back damage, glue residue or overall fading, it’s a likely indication that the missing color was caused by an environmental factor. It’s def unique and neat to see but I personally would not consider this a true error.

I have seen two of the blue OMs in person and those appear to be factory printed as blue without any indication of environmental alterations.


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I am in agreement that the “wet” looking front indicates that some environmental factor altered the colour of the card. For me when I see a “missing red” version that has severe back damage, glue residue or overall fading, it’s a likely indication that the missing color was caused by an environmental factor. It’s def unique and neat to see but I personally would not consider this a true error.

I have seen two of the blue OMs in person and those appear to be factory printed as blue without any indication of environmental alterations.


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