Whether Lifted Gloss Equals Paper Loss and How it Affects PSA grade for you.

[RiceBondsMntna2Young]

Wanted to get a second opinion about whether the missing gloss in the top right white border constitututes paper loss to you?

How would it affect your appraisal of a card in terms of PSA (or SGC) grade?

How would it affect your personal appraisal of the card, dollar-wise and feels-wise? What about if the card was already graded Altered?

Thanks for your thoughts!

[bn2cardz]

I would believe that is an indicator of a rebuilt corner.

[LuckyLarry]

vintage dried out tape removal? I dont know how PSA would grade this I would guess paper loss.
Larry

[perezfan]

Unfortunately, the answer is contingent upon who is submitting the card.

In this case, I would lean more towards tape removal (or perhaps the result of using a mounting corner) than a completely rebuilt corner.

[samosa4u]

Take it into a dark room and shine a UV light over it.

[Johnny630]

Depends on whom submits the card>>>>that's the bottom line

[RiceBondsMntna2Young]

Originally Posted by drcy

Looks more than lifted gloss. Looks as if the first layer of the stock is removed.

Agreed, so what do you think the grade impact should be?

Originally Posted by perezfan

Unfortunately, the answer is contingent upon who is submitting the card.

In this case, I would lean more towards tape removal (or perhaps the result of using a mounting corner) than a completely rebuilt corner.

Originally Posted by LuckyLarry

vintage dried out tape removal? I dont know how PSA would grade this I would guess paper loss.
Larry

It also looks to me like a piece of tape stripped off the top layer on that corner. Do you dock a grade (2, 3 grades?) automatically for that? Or is the ceiling for any card with this type of surface damage, say a PSA 2, max, no matter how otherwise nice?

I haven't seen the card in person but I'm trying to nail down a fair price range for a card that already has a confirmed trimmed edge. The discussion is, how would this card otherwise grade if it hadn't been trimmed - like how does it show? The subtract from there since it's also altered.

[perezfan]

Ugh... everyone is still so hung up on a number grade. It's really quite meaningless to assign a number to this.

I guess if you were to pretend it's not altered, then maybe a 3 at best.

If the tape (or whatever it was) took off more than just the glaze, and it lost the very top layer of paper, then a 2 at best. But either way it's an "A" so what does it really matter?