Do these items exist? Lets see visual confirmation!

[Vintagecatcher]

I'm sure we all have items on our want lists that we may have never seen an example of firsthand. So lets post a few of these items and see if anyone can provide a scan to satisfy our curiosity!

I'll start the thread with my desire to see a PE2 Diamond Gun pin of Red Dooin.

I have the only other catchers in the set, Bill Carrigan and Ira Thomas, already.

He is on the Diamond Gum checklist, however, I don't recall ever seeing one.

Patrick

[bcornell]

Patrick, I've got one: a D381 Jennings. This card has been catalogued going back to the Sports Collectors Bible days, but I've never seen one and I don't know of any collector who has, either.

My suspicion is that the card does exist. It was likely Larry Fritsch who provided the info on this set and he was known to have a big group of them. Also, I think the Jennings card was issued only by Ferguson Bakery and not by Fleischmann Bakery, so like all Fergusons, it's rare. The Johnson card is another Ferguson-only card (along with Nehf and Tragesser) and it was never catalogued until it appeared on this site in a thread about 15 years ago.

If someone has an image, please share it!

[Baseball Rarities]

I would love to see a image of a PC760 Rose Co. postcard of Tris Speaker.

Like Bill's example, the Speaker has been on checklists since the days of The Sports Collector's Bible.

Personally, I doubt that it exists since Speaker was not very well known when the set was initially issued in 1908. Plus, each of the 16 teams have exactly 12 cards in the "main" set from 1908 and all 12 subjects are known for the Boston AL team, BUT the Rose Co. did add a few players subsequently (Abstein, Isbell, Knight, McConnell, Oakes, Sebring, Spade, etc.), to their initial set of 192, so there is a chance that Speaker was issued. If he does exist, he would certainly be part of the "no team" series that was issued in 1909.

[Vintagecatcher]

Hopefully Jerry S., the expert regarding the PC760 Rose Co. set, will chime in regarding whether this postcard exists.

Patrick

[ValKehl]

Can anyone confirm the existence of of a T216 Kotton Cigarettes card with this Jennings pose and this back?

[MartyFromCANADA]

J=K Candy - George Gibson
Anyone??

[JohnP0621]

Would love to see a T213 Coupon of Chief Meyers Fielding with a Brooklyn Team
Variation and a Hooks Wiltse pitching with a Jersey City team variation.

John P

[Vintagecatcher]

Here you go John. Have one in my collection.

Patrick

[buymycards]

Hi John,
I have one. As far as I can find out, he never played for Jersey City. His tough T213-2's are the 2 Brooklyn versions. He played for the Brooklyn Tip-Tops in 1915.

Rick

[packs]

Would love to see an example of the Grover Alexander W590 with him listed as being with House of David.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by packs

Would love to see an example of the Grover Alexander W590 with him listed as being with House of David.

An image of one is shown in the first post of this thread:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=185679

Brian

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by buymycards

Hi John,
I have one. As far as I can find out, he never played for Jersey City. His tough T213-2's are the 2 Brooklyn versions. He played for the Brooklyn Tip-Tops in 1915.

Rick

Hi John and Rick,

I also have a copy of the Wiltse pitching on Jersey City as part of my Jersey City collection. Just to point out that they are out there if you look for them.


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[JohnP0621]

Originally Posted by Vintagecatcher

Here you go John. Have one in my collection.

Patrick

Thanks for showing .
I have a back run of This pose . Only missing this card and the victory tobacco
Been looking for this variation for some time.

Regards
John P

[T206Collector]

Signed T206s of Stanage, Moriarty, Schmidt, Bresnahan (Portrait), Pattee, or Shaw

I have only been able to view 57 different signed T206 poses that are credible or authenticated by PSA, JSA, or BAS.

Years ago, I heard claims about Stanage, Moriarty, and Schmidt signed poses from a Net54 collector, but he refuses to or is unable to send me scans, so it is hard to credit the representation.

Renowned autograph dealer Phil Marks says that a bunch of signed T206 Bresnahans exist in private collections, but I have only seen the one batting pose that has been authenticated by PSA. I have never seen another, or the portrait pose.

Shaw and Pattee lived into the 1970s -- in fact Shaw was the 3rd-to-last T206er to pass away, survived only by Livingston and Marquard -- and should thus be reasonably possible. His signature is just 6 letters long, so it is surprising to me that the forgers were not able to get a fake one through the experts. We know that the forgers did purchase an unsigned Shaw, so maybe they tried but were unsuccessful. Naturally, if any of these show up for the first time without provenance tomorrow, they should be viewed as highly suspicious.

Still, it is exciting to imagine what could be out there lurking in private collections. In the only email I have ever gotten from Keith Olberman he told me that he had about 25. But, he never responded to follow up emails about which ones he had. If only all collectors of signed T206 cards would post scans of their treasures, the world would be a better place!

[buymycards]

Originally Posted by JohnP0621

Would love to see a T213 Coupon of Chief Meyers Fielding with a Brooklyn Team
Variation and a Hooks Wiltse pitching with a Jersey City team variation.

John P

Hi John,

I assume you are talking about Type 2 T213's.
Can't help you with the Meyers.

Rick

[buymycards]

LOL, I didn't notice that this thread was 18 months old.

[ledsters]

I just happen across that Hage’s Bridges and remembered that someone was looking for proof it existed.

[t213]

Steve,
I have the T215-2 Heinie Wagner.
Andy

[benjulmag]

The 1912 Boston Garter cards have a checklist on the backs. Among the players listed is Walter Johnson. I have never seen an image of this card. Does anybody have one?

[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by benjulmag

The 1912 Boston Garter cards have a checklist on the backs. Among the players listed is Walter Johnson. I have never seen an image of this card. Does anybody have one?

Corey - I have never seen a Walter Johnson. I do not think that I have seen Tris Speaker either - he is also on the checklist.

[RCMcKenzie]

Steve, here's T215-2 Lake. Lipset has it catalogued. Rough condition, but you can still see a blue remnant of "Detroit".

[brass_rat]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

Steve, here's T215-2 Lake. Lipset has it catalogued. Rough condition, but you can still see a blue remnant of "Detroit".

Thanks, Rob!

[rjackson44]

Wagner ,cobb ,w.johnson complete boxes ,,,never happen.