A valuable lesson - eBay fraud + options

[sportscardpete]

I am looking to see if anyone has any bright side to the below situation. This is something, that I was really stupid about, but obviously lessened has been learned. I figured I would share with the rest of you. This is killing me. I obviously will get through this but wanted to partially and vent and maybe hoping that someone here has a ray of light for me on potential options:

I recently messaged someone (who had reputable feedback, more on this later) on eBay about a card he was offering. I wanted to see if he would lower his price on something. He said he would only do this off eBay - countless sports dealers do this, I didn’t think the ask was abnormal.

I sent payment to him through PayPal friends and family (dumb, I know). He didn’t really answer me after that, but after several follow ups he sent item with tracking. I was already on high alert from his spotty responses so I decided
To record myself opening the package. As I opened it I saw a reprint of the card I purchased, not the one we agreed upon. I mentioned it to the seller and he said it must be a mistake maybe I switched cards. I said no, and he said if I send back card he will give me a refund.

My question is - I obviously can’t trust the guy. Should I just bring the evidence of texts and the video to my bank (since I assume PayPal won’t be helpful)? Or should I send the reprint to the guy and hope he refunds? I noticed his feedback had a recent negative from the same exact situation (after I purchased) so obviously this is a rolling scam.

A valuable lesson on trusting non-net54 accounts!

Pete

[ramram]

I’m assuming you have his street address. Send the item back and see what happens. If he jerks you around, let him know that you know a guy that knows a guy....in his hometown.

Rob M

[Jewish-collector]

If he's not too far away, drive over there with a couple of bounty hunters or UFC guys, knock on his front door and say, Sometimes you gotta say "WTF" and take the original card that he was supposed to send you and then dare him to do anything about it.

[KaiserCurt]

Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

If he's not too far away, drive over there with a couple of bounty hunters or UFC guys, knock on his front door and say, Sometimes you gotta say "WTF" and take the original card that he was supposed to send you and then dare him to do anything about it.

I’m getting OJ Simpson Las Vegas Memorabilia energy here! Lol

[Blunder19]

ship the card back.. with tracking.. if he doesnt refund you after the card shows as delivered then involve the police.

[drcy]

I think there's fair chance you will get a refund. A lot of scammers refund when they're called out on it.

[Jim65]

Send the card back so you have proof of the return. Then get your Bank/Credit Card Co involved if he doesn't refund.

DON'T pay Friends and Family to ANYONE ever. Deals with good honest sellers can turn bad, why give up your protection?

[Jcosta19]

My 2 cents probably don't mean much but I dont understand when people are saying things like the OP is cheating ebay and paypal.

He reached out for a better price and the seller only would budge off ebay. That has nothing to do with the OP.

The seller is clearly cheating or short changing ebay and breaking their policies, but the OP has no obligation to stick with ebay when the card is not available on ebay at a price that he is willing to pay.



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[Rascal1010]

My question is if he didn't buy the card on Ebay why does he say Ebay fraud in his post title? Shouldn't the title be A Valuable Lesson - Private Sale Fraud - Options?

[KaiserCurt]

Originally Posted by Rascal1010

My question is if he didn't buy the card on Ebay why does he say Ebay fraud in his post title? Shouldn't the title be A Valuable Lesson - Private Sale Fraud - Options?

+1

[mrmopar]

Just guessing here, but the OP mentioned the seller getting a recent negative for something similar. I would assume that the feedback we see is that other transaction. If OP bought his item off ebay, there was no ebay transaction/item number and therefore no way to leave feedback. I don't think that feedback we can see is from the OP, based on what I have read.

Originally Posted by Rascal1010

My question is if he didn't buy the card on Ebay why does he say Ebay fraud in his post title? Shouldn't the title be A Valuable Lesson - Private Sale Fraud - Options?

And rereading this, I thought I saw mention of the ebay feedback. I was wrong or quoted the wrong comment.

i agree that this is not an ebay fraud issue at all. The perpetrator just happens to sell on ebay and this is where the connection began between the two parties, but no transaction was completed via ebay.

[Republicaninmass]

I never complain, nobody listens

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