One major AH vs another

[Snapolit1]

Hypothetically, say you have a nice card to sell and think it's worth about $50,000.

Do you think which AH you consign it to will materially impact the final selling price? Not talking some obscure off the radar place, but one of the big say 10-15 AHs. Do you think it really makes a difference at the end of the days whose selling it?

Not looking for a recommendation for a sale, just curious in what people think.

Does quality of reputation or style of presentation really matter at the end of the day in thus crazy marketplace?

[ullmandds]

One thing that really irks me is when I consign what may be considered a showcase card to one auction house...and when the auction opens there are a handful of other examples...this in my opinion surely will affect the hammer price.

Granted I'm not talking 50K cards...maybe 5-10K.

[Rhotchkiss]

You mention 10-15 AHs. In my opinion, there are not 10-15 different AHs To which I would consign a $50k prewar card. For a $50k card, I think there are 5-7 AHs to choose from. That said, in this market, I think the end result in all 5-7 would be about the same; that is, the AH does not make too much of a difference. This means the deciding factors would be customer service, auction timing, and how much of the BP you could get.

Maybe ask Fballguy- that genius seems to be an expert in auction houses and buyer’s premiums.

[x2drich2000]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

You mention 10-15 AHs. In my opinion, there are not 10-15 different AHs To which I would consign a $50k prewar card. For a $50k card, I think there are 5-7 AHs to choose from. That said, in this market, I think the end result in all 5-7 would be about the same; that is, the AH does not make too much of a difference. This means the deciding factors would be customer service, auction timing, and how much of the BP you could get.

Maybe ask Fballguy- that genius seems to be an expert in auction houses and buyer’s premiums.

Way above my pay grade, but I generally agree. The only thing I would say is some auction houses do a little better with specific types of items. For instance, I would probably consider Goldin over REA for a modern super pink twinkle refractor and REA over Goldin for a rare 19th century cabinet.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

You mention 10-15 AHs. In my opinion, there are not 10-15 different AHs To which I would consign a $50k prewar card. For a $50k card, I think there are 5-7 AHs to choose from. That said, in this market, I think the end result in all 5-7 would be about the same; that is, the AH does not make too much of a difference. This means the deciding factors would be customer service, auction timing, and how much of the BP you could get.

Maybe ask Fballguy- that genius seems to be an expert in auction houses and buyer’s premiums.

Ha ha...If rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it, right Crotchkiss?

The loyalty with which lemming hand over their wallets really is a site to behold. Most do it grudgingly and that I get. Others eagerly turn around and bend over so their back pocket is more easily reached. Maybe too eagerly in some cases.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Ha ha...If rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it, right Crotchkiss?

The loyalty with which lemming hand over their wallets really is a site to behold. Most do it grudgingly and that I get. Others eagerly turn around and bend over so their back pocket is more easily reached. Maybe too eagerly in some cases.

I hardly think you can equate paying the vigorish on a baseball card, which is clearly disclosed, to the act of rape. Maybe use a better choice of words.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

I hardly think you can equate paying the vigorish on a baseball card, which is clearly disclosed, to the act of rape. Maybe use a better choice of words.

Yeah, that was bit much.

Don’t want to pay a commission, shop elsewhere.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Ha ha...If rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it, right Crotchkiss?

My vote for the classiest and most intelligent guy on the board.

I feel bad for your mother. I hope we get to meet so I can tell you to you’re face what I think of you

Ryan “Crotchkiss” Hotchkiss

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

My vote for the classiest and most intelligent guy on the board.

I feel bad for your mother. I hope we get to meet so I can tell you to you’re face what I think of you

Ryan “Crotchkiss” Hotchkiss

Now, about that definition of insanity you were telling me about...

Note to self as well -- do not feed the trolls.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

My vote for the classiest and most intelligent guy on the board.

I feel bad for your mother. I hope we get to meet so I can tell you to you’re face what I think of you

Ryan “Crotchkiss” Hotchkiss

I'm going to be at the National. Let's meet up.

This crybaby takes an unprovoked shot at me, then gets his feelings hurt upon retort. Why is this hobby filled with so many of these guys? Probably why they got into hobbies to begin with.

[Klrdds]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

One thing that really irks me is when I consign what may be considered a showcase card to one auction house...and when the auction opens there are a handful of other examples...this in my opinion surely will affect the hammer price.

Granted I'm not talking 50K cards...maybe 5-10K.

I see the same issue with the numbers of the same cards in auctions and I have cards in that 5K and higher value as many of us do .
I was wondering before consigning an item if you can ask the AH before the deadline to consign how many of this card are in their auction and what are their grades and who is the grading company in order to decide on who to use , and would they tell you ?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

One thing that really irks me is when I consign what may be considered a showcase card to one auction house...and when the auction opens there are a handful of other examples...this in my opinion surely will affect the hammer price.

Granted I'm not talking 50K cards...maybe 5-10K.

I have noticed that trend for a couple of years now with some of the more popular but (relatively) inexpensive cards like Red Cobbs.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have noticed that trend for a couple of years now with some of the more popular but (relatively) inexpensive cards like Red Cobbs.

But if you consign say a nice PSA 5, and the auction is listing an 8 and 9 going sky high, maybe the presence of the other two cards exploding actually gets you a better price on your card than you would have otherwise gotten, as it attracts all the relative “bargain” seekers. just a thought.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

But if you consign say a nice PSA 5, and the auction is listing an 8 and 9 going sky high, maybe the presence of the other two cards exploding actually gets you a better price on your card than you would have otherwise gotten, as it attracts all the relative “bargain” seekers. just a thought.

Perhaps, but I have also seen multiples in the same grade in the same auction of quite a few popular cards.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Perhaps, but I have also seen multiples in the same grade in the same auction of quite a few popular cards.

yeah, that’s not going to be helpful.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have noticed that trend for a couple of years now with some of the more popular but (relatively) inexpensive cards like Red Cobbs.

Whereas in the past the auctions wouldn't do this