College Basketball All-Time Scoring Record

[BobC]

This is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion, and the thoughts/comments of others involved remind me somewhat of the Lavar Ball show. Even the NBA doesn't go counting points scored in the playoffs towards its all-time scoring record. I would actually be more embarrassed to supposedly hold a record like this over someone like Pete Maravich when it was learned exactly to what lengths I, and others, went through to get it. This IMO not only doesn't deserve an "asterisk" if the breaking of Maravich's record does come to happen, it deserves to be entirely and utterly dismissed and ignored. LOL

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/pete-ma...032207421.html

If anything, I stand and applaud Youngstown State for their effort to not allow a farce to take over one of college basketball's great records. And nothing against this kid, but what does he need a bodyguard and manager for?

[todeen]

I don't see anything absurd with records being broken. So many rules have changed that records from previous eras essentially stand alone. In baseball we now have a ghost runner starting in the 10th inning. How weird is that? And in the NBA, they now have a 3-pt line that has demolished previous scoring records. And the 3 pt line has even changed distance since it was created.

However, I do agree with you about postseason points being included. I discovered that myself a week ago and thought how weird that is.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by todeen

I don't see anything absurd with records being broken. So many rules have changed that records from previous eras essentially stand alone. In baseball we now have a ghost runner starting in the 10th inning. How weird is that? And in the NBA, they now have a 3-pt line that has demolished previous scoring records. And the 3 pt line has even changed distance since it was created.

However, I do agree with you about postseason points being included. I discovered that myself a week ago and thought how weird that is.

Aside from the other details, he's had FIVE years ('student' held back?) and 144 games to get this close. Pete had only three years; 93 games and no 3-pt. shot.

I checked this guy's stats and he only hits 40.8 of his field goals - even Pete did better than that.

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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Aside from the other details, he's had FIVE years ('student' held back?) and 144 games to get this close. Pete had only three years; 93 games and no 3-pt. shot.

I checked this guy's stats and he only hits 40.8 of his field goals - even Pete did better than that.

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With the disparity in games played and Maravich playing pre three, there's just no equivalence here at all. Maravich also played in a major college program.

[D. Bergin]

Not that I care about it one way or another, but I assume that they also counted Tournament games in Maravich's record also, sooooo?

Not sure why anybody would be attached to this record, and almost literally no other record in college sports.

Pete was coached by his dad, took 40 shots a game, playing on a mostly .500 team while shooting less then 44% from the floor. Pete was a great player, but c'mon...if he was playing on a high level college team with a coach who wasn't his dad, no way he puts up anywhere near those numbers.

Imagine if he had played for John Wooden? Jabbar took 17.3 shots a game his freshman year...and never took that many shots again, during his college career.

...and all that's fine. College opponents, schedules, skill levels, etc..., are way too volatile for any of this to mean anything.

Here's a comprehensive list of College Football records. Let me know if there's a single one on there anybody cares about...who didn't openly root for that team, or go to that alma mater.

https://americanfootballdatabase.fan...otball_records

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Not that I care about it one way or another, but I assume that they also counted Tournament games in Maravich's record also, sooooo?

Not sure why anybody would be attached to this record, and almost literally no other record in college sports.

Pete was coached by his dad, took 40 shots a game, playing on a mostly .500 team while shooting less then 44% from the floor. Pete was a great player, but c'mon...if he was playing on a high level college team with a coach who wasn't his dad, no way he puts up anywhere near those numbers.

Imagine if he had played for John Wooden? Jabbar took 17.3 shots a game his freshman year...and never took that many shots again, during his college career.

...and all that's fine. College opponents, schedules, skill levels, etc..., are way too volatile for any of this to mean anything.

Here's a comprehensive list of College Football records. Let me know if there's a single one on there anybody cares about...who didn't openly root for that team, or go to that alma mater.

https://americanfootballdatabase.fan...otball_records

From what I saw, mostly in the NBA, Maraviich was a really good passer, not just a scoring machine. On a better team, he would not have been the best option such a high percentage of the time and he would have passed more and shot less. And just imagine him playing in the ear of the three.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

With the disparity in games played and Maravich playing pre three, there's just no equivalence here at all. Maravich also played in a major college program.

Nobody is ever going to assume there's an equivalence. The Maravich legend will continue unabated, no matter how many points this kid scores, or how many low level post-season tournaments he participates in.

[todeen]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

I checked this guy's stats and he only hits 40.8 of his field goals - even Pete did better than that.
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Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Pete was coached by his dad, took 40 shots a game, playing on a mostly .500 team while shooting less then 44% from the floor. Pete was a great player, but c'mon...if he was playing on a high level college team with a coach who wasn't his dad, no way he puts up anywhere near those numbers.

This article said that Davis is coached by his father, and the team has had a losing record each season he has played. It is apparent that Davis is THEE offensive cog in this team's success. He shoots a lot, misses a lot, and makes 40%. When he's hot, the team wins. When he's cold, they lose. Just like last night.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Nobody is ever going to assume there's an equivalence. The Maravich legend will continue unabated, no matter how many points this kid scores, or how many low level post-season tournaments he participates in.

and as we know he fell short but I saw a story that said his college could play in another tournament (for a $50K fee) and then he would have at least 1 more game to beat it.

I hope he does not. As others said to score that many points in over 2 extra years and in so many extra games it just seems wrong.
In reality it happens already in all sports like the NBA all time scoring leaders and in MLB and all their records but it will never take away from the LEgend of Pistol Pete

[mikemb]

Any all time or career record will always involve players from different era's with different rules.

But the opportunity to play more games, in college basketball, has increased so much from when I was a kid. When I was younger, freshman were not eligible, no 3 pointers, no conference tournaments, 26 game schedule and 32 teams in the NCAA tournament.

Yes you still have to be good to be the all time leader and I don't think it should be ignored. But it does not mean the all time leader is the best at what it is.

Mike