eBay authenticity guarantee

Popcorn · #1 03-22-2023, 08:17 PM

Ever purchase a raw card that was probably over graded by the seller but didn’t care. Just wanted it regardless but it was returned?

I’m afraid a recent purchase I made might have that happen.

We should be able to leave a memo for the authenticity department imo

G1911 · #2 03-22-2023, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Popcorn

We should be able to leave a memo for the authenticity department imo

+1. I just got in a card that had the wrong name in the listing and had a nail biting couple of days that PSA was going to kill my deal and block me from buying what I wanted to buy. Thankfully they evidently did not notice the listing was wrong and let me have my card. I would love to be able to skip this or to tell them I want the card I bought even if they reject it, thank you.

Popcorn · #3 03-22-2023, 08:28 PM

Right: an example would be a yaz RC listed as mint but is probably ex although the card looks amazing and was only $100 raw, will they squash the sale? It�s ridiculous some times. I don�t care about the description in a case like that.

bnorth · #4 03-22-2023, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

+1. I just got in a card that had the wrong name in the listing and had a nail biting couple of days that PSA was going to kill my deal and block me from buying what I wanted to buy. Thankfully they evidently did not notice the listing was wrong and let me have my card. I would love to be able to skip this or to tell them I want the card I bought even if they reject it, thank you.

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Originally Posted by Popcorn

Right: an example would be a yaz RC listed as mint but is probably ex although the card looks amazing and was only $100 raw, will they squash the sale? It�s ridiculous some times. I don�t care about the description in a case like that.

Just my opinion but I would be OK as a seller with buyers being able to skip the program only if there was absolutely no returns if you skip the program.

As an occasional seller I love the program and found a way to make even cards that sell for under their $250 threshold go to the authenticators.

G1911 · #5 03-22-2023, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

Just my opinion but I would be OK as a seller with buyers being able to skip the program only if there was absolutely no returns if you skip the program.

As an occasional seller I love the program and found a way to make even cards that sell for under their $250 threshold go to the authenticators.

I get it a bit more for Topps cards etc., but as a buyer of rare and unusual cards that the graders don't know jack about, it's a titanic pain in the rear. At least 30% of the cards I buy on eBay are described wrong because it's a rare and obscure card and the seller doesn't know what they have. I am not a fan that an incompetent grader that has no idea what they are looking at gets to decide if am allowed to actually purchase a card of my own free will.

Peter_Spaeth · #6 03-22-2023, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

I get it a bit more for Topps cards etc., but as a buyer of rare and unusual cards that the graders don't know jack about, it's a titanic pain in the rear. At least 30% of the cards I buy on eBay are described wrong because it's a rare and obscure card and the seller doesn't know what they have. I am not a fan that an incompetent grader that has no idea what they are looking at gets to decide if am allowed to actually purchase a card of my own free will.

I don't know if it would create huge logistical problems, but surely it would make sense to allow a buyer to opt out at the time he pays.

BobC · #7 03-22-2023, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

Just my opinion but I would be OK as a seller with buyers being able to skip the program only if there was absolutely no returns if you skip the program.

As an occasional seller I love the program and found a way to make even cards that sell for under their $250 threshold go to the authenticators.

Great point and I totally agree with you Ben, but we both know what would end up happening if Ebay allowed that. Eventually someone would opt out of the authentication program, and then some not so ethical dealer/seller would realize they could get away with sending the buyer a similar card in lesser condition, or even a completely different card, and face no return repercussions from doing it. And if the buyer tried to leave negative feedback, I can see the unethical seller arguing with Ebay that it was the buyer's decision to opt out of the AP, not theirs, so the negative should be removed. LOL You know someone will try it if they were to get the opportunity.

BobC · #8 03-22-2023, 10:35 PM

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BobC · #9 03-22-2023, 10:35 PM

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Peter_Spaeth · #10 03-22-2023, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Popcorn

Ever purchase a raw card that was probably over graded by the seller but didn�t care. Just wanted it regardless but it was returned?

I�m afraid a recent purchase I made might have that happen.

We should be able to leave a memo for the authenticity department imo

At least CSG is paying attention.

Empty77 · #11 03-22-2023, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Popcorn

Ever purchase a raw card that was probably over graded by the seller but didn�t care. Just wanted it regardless but it was returned?

Yes. In my case it was a rare raw card and the authenticator deemed that it wasn't exactly as described and cancelled the sale. I was pretty peeved. It's like, there may only be a handful of these on the planet, so what difference does it make if it wasn't described perfectly? The pictures are right there anyway.

At some point eBay did ask for a survey response about the experience and I was pretty direct about the inherent flaws, essentially as noted in this thread.

(I got the item in the end, off eBay, so the system also cost them a perfectly good sale.)

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