If SGC Becomes No More What Happens To The Pop Report?

[The Nasty Nati]

Obviously a big what if, but if Collectors Universe dissolves SGC you have to wonder what will happen to SGC's pop report data?

It's crucial data to determine the rarity of certain cards. Pop reports are not perfect, as there's a lot of cross-grading, but losing that SGC data would be a bummer. Hopefully, that info gets saved somewhere for the sake of the hobby.

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by The Nasty Nati

Obviously a big what if, but if Collectors Universe dissolves SGC you have to wonder what will happen to SGC's pop report data?

It's crucial data to determine the rarity of certain cards. Pop reports are not perfect, as there's a lot of cross-grading, but losing that SGC data would be a bummer. Hopefully, that info gets saved somewhere for the sake of the hobby.

Sad to say, but most likely “scattered to the wind”.

With no company, no reason to keep that information.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by The Nasty Nati

Obviously a big what if, but if Collectors Universe dissolves SGC you have to wonder what will happen to SGC's pop report data?

It's crucial data to determine the rarity of certain cards. Pop reports are not perfect, as there's a lot of cross-grading, but losing that SGC data would be a bummer. Hopefully, that info gets saved somewhere for the sake of the hobby.

IMO, if Collectors does away with the SGC brand, my hunch is that as time passes after that awful day, the SGC pop will become less and less important because more and more people will be crossing over their SGC cards. Not all will but most will have to when or if they go to sell.

[Johnny630]

I do think SGC will be absorbed as one brand down the road that being PSA.

However I will say this….a nice looking card in a SGC Holder that isn’t a gift grade and is strong for its grade will always have strong resale value in the future. People don’t pay for the grade regardless of what the card looks like as they do with PSA cards. People will buy ugly PSA cards in a grade they “Need” for their Registry and Pop. Sgc has never been a real player with that customer base.

[The Nasty Nati]

Someone want to back up the pop report data for key pre-war sets like T206 before the data goes puff.

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

I do think SGC will be absorbed as one brand down the road that being PSA.

However I will say this….a nice looking card in a SGC Holder that isn’t a gift grade and is strong for its grade will always have strong resale value in the future. People don’t pay for the grade regardless of what the card looks like as they do with PSA cards. People will buy ugly PSA cards in a grade they “Need” for their Registry and Pop. Sgc has never been a real player with that customer base.

Well said!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

I do think SGC will be absorbed as one brand down the road that being PSA.

However I will say this….a nice looking card in a SGC Holder that isn’t a gift grade and is strong for its grade will always have strong resale value in the future. People don’t pay for the grade regardless of what the card looks like as they do with PSA cards. People will buy ugly PSA cards in a grade they “Need” for their Registry and Pop. Sgc has never been a real player with that customer base.

I hope you are right on part two, I have no wish to go through the reholdering game. I could see it happening otherwise though, if eventually people look at an SGC card and figure the owner must have been unsuccessful at getting it reholdered and as a result it sells at a steep discount.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Ipeople look at an SGC card and figure the owner must have been unsuccessful at getting it reholdered and as a result it sells at a steep discount.

That's where we are currently. Mpst well centered cards in psa holders sell for more than their sgc counterpart.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

That's where we are currently. Mpst well centered cards in psa holders sell for more than their sgc counterpart.

True I think, but the gap would be even bigger if people assumed SGC cards won't cross. I think the present gap is just (or mostly) a function of people (outside the "enclave" of course) preferring PSA.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

That's where we are currently. Mpst well centered cards in psa holders sell for more than their sgc counterpart.

And yet most well-centered cards in SGC holders also sell for more than their PSA counterpart. This is of course because centering matters more than which TPG graded it, at least for vintage cards.

[robinsonmantle]

Not perfect either but the universal search seems to pull PSA and SGC:

https://gemrate.com/universal-search


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[The Nasty Nati]

Originally Posted by robinsonmantle

Not perfect either but the universal search seems to pull PSA and SGC:

https://gemrate.com/universal-search


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Yeah gemrate has trouble finding certain pre-war sets.

[Prince Hal]

What did I miss, is SGC going bankrupt/being purchased?

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Prince Hal

What did I miss, is SGC going bankrupt/being purchased?

I guess you’ve been living under a rock for the last few weeks!

Either that or, as the British would say, you’re taking the piss.

[BioCRN]

They have different grading standards. It would be a mess. Some people would be really disappointed with some lower-graded crossovers.

I like SGC, but grades of 2 and below get really generous compared to many PSA examples. You can have holes and markings on a card and still get a 2 with SGC. There's other differences up/down the number scale between PSA/SGC, but it's really evident in 2 and below.