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Old 08-05-2025, 04:31 PM
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Default Cartwright Daguerreotype assessment ?? Question

Question for bigfanNY concerning the Cartwright Daguerreotype. What criteria did you use , Thanks in advance, Tom
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Old 08-07-2025, 03:24 AM
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Im very curious which perimeters you used to assess the Cartwright photo, which ears of which player did you use-thanks , Tom
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Is photo matching a legit accepted method used to authenticate items, thanks, Tom
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This was moved from another section as that photo (or one closely resembling it) has always been interesting to me..
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I am not sure how long ago the image posted was first attributed to being a ca. 1846 daguerrotype of the Knickerbockers (with Cartwright back row center) but it was described as such on page five in the 1994 book Baseball: An Illustrated History by Ward and Burns (this was the book published as an accompaniment to the Ken Burns documentary).

It is unclear who first identified the photo and whether they used photo matching to another known Cartwright photo or whether they had other information about the photo (e.g., family provenance, original documentation, etc.).

Any other photo IDs of Cartwright based on this image would depend on whether you accept that this is Cartwright in the first place.

I am not saying it is or it isn't, but for what it's worth, Wikipedia says the identification is disputed and cites a 2011 SABR article https://sabr.box.com/shared/static/t...8u64tq5rtd.pdf
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Can this forum and experts agree photo matching is acceptable for authentications of memorabilia . AH use this practice .
My question, because the subjects are wearing hats, obstructing matching the hair-lines. The ears are also covered. We assume some sort of Facial Recognition technology was primary used in this case.--thanks Tom

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Question for bigfanNY concerning the Cartwright Daguerreotype. What criteria did you use , Thanks in advance, Tom
Since you continue to direct questions to me. I will respond once to this thread.
I did not use any criteria concerning the Disputed Cartwright photo. I dont recall responding to the thread discussing this photo. I read the Sabr article Michael posted and it seems to refute the claim that Cartwright is in the Photo. But I haven't done any research on my own on this subject. And I dont have any interest in taking up any research on the Cartwright Photo.
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