T206 & Old Judge

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

This has probably been discussed before but for some reason I was thinking about this: Duffy, Latham, and Beckley are the only guys I can think of in both sets, and Beckley was the only truly active player in both though in T206 he was in the minors.

I know Latham had a couple at bats with the Giants, which was something he seemed to do every few years after he retired, and I guess that's good enough to get him a card in T206, but I hardly consider that an active player.

Am I missing anyone?


Does the Phantom Lajoie make him the only guy in T206 and 1933 Goudey?

Does anyone from any of the Goudey issues make it to Bowman or even Topps?

Weird stuff that runs through my mind.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Does the Phantom Lajoie make him the only guy in T206 and 1933 Goudey?

Jack Quinn, and he was still active in 1933.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

Jack Quinn, and he was still active in 1933.

Great call on Quinn. Interesting career, spent three years in the minors after his age 31 season after having already been an established major leaguer, then comes back at age 34 and pitches 15 more years. Those missing three years would possibly have him sneaking up on 300 wins (he had 247) and he has a decent 59.7 FWAR, could've easily been 70.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Clark Griffith is in both sets.

[realbigfatdog]

Tris Speaker has a card in both T206 and 1933 Goudey. Also, I know a couple of Goudey players had cards as coaches in '52 Topps, Like Dickey and Crosetti.

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[Eric72]

Stretching things a bit, I believe Casey Stengel had:

• 1910 Old Mill
• 1933 Worch Cigar
• 1952 Bowman

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Stretching things a bit, I believe Casey Stengel had:

• 1910 Old Mill
• 1933 Worch Cigar
• 1952 Bowman

And Topps stretching through to 1965, I believe. Impressive.

Connie Mack could have destroyed some records if Goudey and Topps/Bowman had thought to add him. There were the Topps Connie Mack All Stars if you wanted him in on a technicality! We do have Play Ball, though.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

And Topps stretching through to 1965, I believe. Impressive.

Connie Mack could have destroyed some records if Goudey and Topps/Bowman had thought to add him. There were the Topps Connie Mack All Stars if you wanted him in on a technicality! We do have Play Ball, though.

That leads to a new question.

Is Stengel the record holder for longest run between first and last cards for an active participant in the game (player, coach or manager)

You've got guys like Schoendienst, and Red Sox Johnny Pesky and Charlie Wagner who had 70+ years in the game but did they have a "cardspan" that matched Stengel?

[judsonhamlin]

Connie Mack had an Old Judge card as a player and was an active manager in 1940 Play Ball (53 years)
Dusty Baker’s rookie card was 1971 Topps and he had a 2024 Topps Heritage card (53 years).
Can’t think of anyone close to those two.

And for fun, Ted Williams was an active player in 1940 and an active manager in 1971, linking (almost) the entire history of baseball cards with three people.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by judsonhamlin

Connie Mack had an Old Judge card as a player and was an active manager in 1940 Play Ball (53 years)
Dusty Baker’s rookie card was 1971 Topps and he had a 2024 Topps Heritage card (53 years).
Can’t think of anyone close to those two.

And for fun, Ted Williams was an active player in 1940 and an active manager in 1971, linking (almost) the entire history of baseball cards with three people.

This has to be the best piece of baseball card information ever put forth. And Williams appeared in both the 1940 PB and 71 Topps issues. It's remarkable, isn't it?

[ASF123]

Originally Posted by judsonhamlin

Connie Mack had an Old Judge card as a player and was an active manager in 1940 Play Ball (53 years)
Dusty Baker’s rookie card was 1971 Topps and he had a 2024 Topps Heritage card (53 years).
Can’t think of anyone close to those two.

And for fun, Ted Williams was an active player in 1940 and an active manager in 1971, linking (almost) the entire history of baseball cards with three people.

Tony La Russa, 1964-2022. That’s 58 years, by my math.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

It really sad, but Wagner didn't actually have a card of his own as an active player. According to TCDB, his first issued card as a current/active partcipant in baseball pathetically didn't arrive until 1980 when TCMA depicted him as a coach for the Elmira Pioneer/Red Sox. That's a grave injustice for a wonderful human being and incredible baseball lifer.

As to your other question, Connie Mack has to hold the record for longest span, doesn't he? OJ to the 1950 Callahan. I am not sure what exact year his OJs were actually released, but this could be up to a 63 year span between issues. Was his Callahan a 1950 release? If they released them in the order of when the HOFers were inducted, I would have to think so, but others will know better. Unfortunately, his 1951 Topps Connie Mack All Star was released the year after the last game he managed.

[Steve D]

Eddie Collins was also in both T206 and 1933 Goudey.

Steve