Cleveland Player Photo ID Help

[aelefson]

Hi-
Thank you again for everyone's help on the team photo I posted a couple of weeks ago. I really appreciate everyone's time and effort in trying to identify the team.
Below is a scan of a Cleveland player from circa 1920. Any idea who this might be? The uniform resembles Indians uniforms from the late teens and early 1920s. I can provide a better scan if needed.

Thanks in advance,
Alan Elefson
aelefson@hotmail.com

[Jaybird]

Tim Allen? ;-)

[thecatspajamas]

Looks like a 1915 or 1916 uniform to me. I'm assuming there is no information at all on the back of the photo? Also, is that an off-center divot in his chin, or a flaw in the surface of the photo?

Still working on an ID, but I gotta admit, by the time I got halfway through the 1915 roster, every other one is looking like a match to my tired eyes. May take another look at it in the morning when I'm fresh, but hopefully someone else can chime in.

Edited to add: Yikes, does Tim have a mouthful of bees in that photo?

[Dto7]

Looks like Joe Boehling

[thecatspajamas]

Don to the rescue once again!

I've got to admit, flipping through the headshots on baseball-reference for 1916 Indians players, I don't think I even gave Boehling a second glance:

The only photo I had of him on hand didn't help much either (see below), but I think the second photo Don showed of him is a much more compelling match.

[bmarlowe1]

Guys - the ears don't match.

[Seiklis]

The guy I was looking at last night for a match was Paul Carter and now that I get a fully awake look at him, I think he's the guy. It looks like he has the chin divit

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by bmarlowe1

Guys - the ears don't match.

Doh!

(I got nothing to compare to on Carter other than that same tiny headshot).

[thecatspajamas]

Best I could come up with (sorry for the low res)

[aelefson]

Wow! Thank you very much for everyone's help! I see the dimple on Carter and I will try to see if I can find a better image to compare.
Thanks again,
Alan

[Seiklis]

Originally Posted by thecatspajamas

Doh!

(I got nothing to compare to on Carter other than that same tiny headshot).

I can't remember if it was you who was selling the 1923 Baltimore Shirt lot or someone else but if it was you there's a card of Carter in there that would probably be the best image around

Edit:
Can't really get close enough

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by Seiklis

I can't remember if it was you who was selling the 1923 Baltimore Shirt lot or someone else but if it was you there's a card of Carter in there that would probably be the best image around

Not me, sorry

[bmarlowe1]

Our guy had very detached earlobes, Carter's are attached.

[thecatspajamas]

How about Jay Kirke...?

[rhettyeakley]

Anyone have a nice image of Bob Coleman with either Cleveland (1916) or Pittsburgh (1913-14), I remember seeing his image a while back and was struck by his features (ie he was ugly), I recall him resembling this gentleman but I can't seem to find a good shot of him now.

[Runscott]

??

[Dto7]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Anyone have a nice image of Bob Coleman with either Cleveland (1916) or Pittsburgh (1913-14), I remember seeing his image a while back and was struck by his features (ie he was ugly), I recall him resembling this gentleman but I can't seem to find a good shot of him now.

Older Photos of Bob Coleman as manager
http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.co...entoryid=48074

Bob Coleman Pirates

[aelefson]

I certainly cannot tell but it might be Coleman. I do not see the dimples but I realize those might change over time. Thank you again for everyone's help!

Alan

[r2678]

Could it be Guy Morton?

[Runscott]

I thought it looked more like Elmer Myers than any of the others shown so far, but no reaction, so I guess I'm seeing things.

[bmarlowe1]

Scott - the ears don't match.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by bmarlowe1

Scott - the ears don't match.

His head is back in the first pic - might make a difference.

[r2678]

Is this him?