Different kind of auction fraud

[calvindog]

Here's the same card, auctioned off four months apart in 2012:


Legendary:



Goodwin:


This has been going on with Legendary since its inception: wildly manipulated, oversaturated scans which cause wrinkles, creases, discolorations, etc. to disappear.

[gnaz01]

Never mind

[Leon]

I think you have to be a VIP (paid) member of VCP to see those prices??

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by Leon

I think you have to be a VIP (paid) member of VCP to see those prices??

Correct Leon

[Peter_Spaeth]

Imagine what it would look like in a PWCC auction.

[HRBAKER]

I'm a paid member, I can't see them.
Do you have to be a Gold member?

[calvindog]

Fixed

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Imagine what it would look like in a PWCC auction.

You couldn't tell as you'd go blind if you stared at it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

You couldn't tell as you'd go blind if you stared at it.

Where do I buy a scanner with a radioactive setting?

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Where do I buy a scanner with a radioactive setting?

Doug Allen is having a major sale -- everything 90% off (after he shills it up 250%).

[Peter_Spaeth]

As an aside, has anyone ever seen a mattress that wasn't at least 50 percent off?

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by peter_spaeth

as an aside, has anyone ever seen a mattress that wasn't at least 50 percent off?

lol

[botn]

Originally Posted by calvindog

This has been going on with Legendary since its inception: wildly manipulated, oversaturated scans which cause wrinkles, creases, discolorations, etc. to disappear.

Grand Jury time? But seriously, I wear the sunglasses that come with the catalog. You didn't get a pair with yours?

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by botn

Grand Jury time? But seriously, I wear the sunglasses that come with the catalog. You didn't get a pair with yours?

No, my catalog came with the rose colored glasses which enabled me to believe that the Cobb above actually sold for 32K. I'm sure the price just happened to drop in half a few months later in a Goodwin auction.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by calvindog

No, my catalog came with the rose colored glasses which enabled me to believe that the Cobb above actually sold for 32K. I'm sure the price just happened to drop in half a few months later in a Goodwin auction.

Just goes to show you having the right scanner can make a world of difference.

[CW]

I would have to agree...

(posted back in Feb.)

Originally Posted by CW

On a related note, all the scans of cards in the legendary auction have either too much brightness or too much contrast going on. It's not horrible, but it prevents a bidder from getting an accurate representation of the colors and clarity on a card. I'm tempted to shoot them an email on this, but I'm not really bidding on any cards in their auction.

[thehoodedcoder]

id pay 90 percent off of a 250 percent increase on the original price any day. maybe you should reconsider that math lol.

kevin

[drc]

I'm Goth so prefer the shadowy version. The Goodwin scan better speaks to my stained soul and unearthly aspirations.

Give me a moment to post a Sisters of Mercy song.

[Peter_Spaeth]

The ultimate modern seller -- enhanced scans, shill bidding, and consignments from card doctors. Wonder how many folks fit the bill?

[calvindog]

Let's ask Bill Mastro's priest -- I'm sure he knows the answer.

[Exhibitman]

Ahh, religion: the last refuge of the scoundrel.

[Bridwell]

Jeff, that same Cobb sold for $18,525 in the Goodwin auction in 2012.

In the Legendary auction, the same card went for $32,862.

[KCRfan1]

I'm going to ask a really dumb question. Who overpays for these cards? For the Cobb, PWCC? With so much information available to price cards, I find it hard to believe that purchase prices are so outrageous.

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by drc

I'm Goth so prefer the shadowy version. The Goodwin scan better speaks to my stained soul and unearthly aspirations.

Give me a moment to post a Sisters of Mercy song.

I thought I was the only one here cool enough to be a Sister's fan!

Ken

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by KCRfan1

I'm going to ask a really dumb question. Who overpays for these cards? For the Cobb, PWCC? With so much information available to price cards, I find it hard to believe that purchase prices are so outrageous.

In at least some cases, the consignors.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by calvindog

No, my catalog came with the rose colored glasses which enabled me to believe that the Cobb above actually sold for 32K. I'm sure the price just happened to drop in half a few months later in a Goodwin auction.

Did all the rich guys that only bid in Goodwin auctions die or something?

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Did all the rich guys that only bid in Goodwin auctions die or something?

Dan, I thought the SAME exact thing!!

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Did all the rich guys that only bid in Goodwin auctions die or something?

No, they all finally got computers and figured out there were other auction houses.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

No, they all finally got computers and figured out there were other auction houses.

Or they got fed-o-phobia?

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Or they got fed-o-phobia?

There's probably a strain or two of that going around.

[murcerfan]

Did all the rich guys that only bid in Goodwin auctions die or something?



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