Grades Finally Back, Glad I Flipped!!!

[Jersey City Giants]

Just got my CC free 15 submission back and I am beyond thrilled. Here are my 15 grades with the flips after them. Flips where a home run, have to buy more BVGs! lol

C46 Parent PSA 5 (KSA 5)
C46 Moeller PSA 4.5
C46 Demmitt PSA 2.5
C46 McAllister PSA 2
T209 Bourquise PSA 3.5 (BVG 1)
T209 McGeehan PSA 4 (BVG 2)
T209 Hoffman PSA1 (BVG 1)
T209 Pope PSA 5 (BVG 3)
T209 Stubbe PSA 3 (BVG 2.5)
T209 Walsh PSA 3 (BVG 2.5)
1921 Exhibits Dykes PSA 3
1921 Exhibits Veach PSA 3.5
1921 Exhibits Wingo PSA 3.5
1921 Exhibits Hornsby PSA 4

[tiger8mush]

but ... but .... Beckett is garbage!!! They don't know what they're doing! They can't grade or authenticate! If its in a BVG holder it must be because it couldn't get into a PSA or SGC holder, right!?!?



p.s. congrats on your flips

[BengoughingForAwhile]

Originally Posted by Jersey City Giants

Just got my CC free 15 submission back and I am beyond thrilled. Here are my 15 grades with the flips after them. Flips where a home run, have to buy more BVGs! lol

C46 Parent PSA 5 (KSA 5)
C46 Moeller PSA 4.5
C46 Demmitt PSA 2.5
C46 McAllister PSA 2
T209 Bourquise PSA 3.5 (BVG 1)
T209 McGeehan PSA 4 (BVG 2)
T209 Hoffman PSA1 (BVG 1)
T209 Pope PSA 5 (BVG 3)
T209 Stubbe PSA 3 (BVG 2.5)
T209 Walsh PSA 3 (BVG 2.5)
1921 Exhibits Dykes PSA 3
1921 Exhibits Veach PSA 3.5
1921 Exhibits Wingo PSA 3.5
1921 Exhibits Hornsby PSA 4

Did you send the BVG cards to PSA in the holders or crack them out?

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Jersey City Giants

Flips where a home run, have to buy more BVGs! lol

Old BVG grades were strict as hell. The issue was that the graders seemed to grade wear on the same plane as a modern pack fresh glossy card. You won't find any examples of BVG 4-5s that look like they were run over by a car like some PSA examples. I run BVG searches all the time.

In a need for some quick family finances I sold a 2.5 BVG red cobb on the BST a little more than a year ago that should have been an easy PSA 4 looking at the mess on eBay. Regret that one now as they of course jumped big right after, oh well.

[pherbener]

Originally Posted by BengoughingForAwhile

Did you send the BVG cards to PSA in the holders or crack them out?

$1000 says they were cracked out. No way PSA would give a higher grade in another companies slab. I second how tough BVG grades. I cracked out a 1974 Dave Parker of an SGC 9 hoping for a 9.5 and it got a BVG 7!!

[that T206 Guy]

Originally Posted by JustinD

Old BVG grades were strict as hell. The issue was that the graders seemed to grade wear on the same plane as a modern pack fresh glossy card. You won't find any examples of BVG 4-5s that look like they were run over by a car like some PSA examples. I run BVG searches all the time.

In a need for some quick family finances I sold a 2.5 BVG red cobb on the BST a little more than a year ago that should have been an easy PSA 4 looking at the mess on eBay. Regret that one now as they of course jumped big right after, oh well.

I Remember Back in the Day When BGS Cards Sold for More than PSA Cards because they Were Said to be much More Strict than PSA.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by that T206 Guy

I Remember Back in the Day When BGS Cards Sold for More than PSA Cards because they Were Said to be much More Strict than PSA.

Are you related to Denny Walsh?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Are you related to Denny Walsh?

I doubt it, nor Adrian, thank goodness. (according to the call Steve and I just had)

[that T206 Guy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Are you related to Denny Walsh?

Who is that?

A Board Member?

[that T206 Guy]

Originally Posted by Leon

I doubt it, nor Adrian, thank goodness. (according to the call Steve and I just had)

Yes, I have no Idea who this Adrian Guy is Everyone Keeps Talking About.

[Jersey City Giants]

Originally Posted by BengoughingForAwhile

Did you send the BVG cards to PSA in the holders or crack them out?

Totally cracked them out ( the BVGs and the KSA).

You could tell the BVG were too harshly graded. I thought the KSA was a 4-4.5 ( paid for it like a 3.5).

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

I doubt it, nor Adrian, thank goodness. (according to the call Steve and I just had)

You mean the Call you Just Had.

[mechanicalman]

The absolute opposite experience I’ve had with crossing BVG to PSA, but I’m genuinely happy (though surprised) to see your success.

[swarmee]

Denny is a board member who puts capitalization in odd places throughout a sentence. You seem to be doing similar things.

Adrian is a former board member who made a bunch of posts and continually bumped threads. He also made a bunch of people on the Buy/Sell/Trade board angry by changing deals mid-way through or falling off the map, if I remember correctly.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by that T206 Guy

Yes, I have no Idea who this Adrian Guy is Everyone Keeps Talking About.

IF you really want to read some Adrian threads Google Adrian and Net54....Google is your friend more so than our crappy search we have. Here is one..He had reached his 1000th post in a week and a half LOL....

http://forum.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=170930

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[Jersey City Giants]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

The absolute opposite experience I’ve had with crossing BVG to PSA, but I’m genuinely happy (though surprised) to see your success.

Thanks! My father sent stuff in once to BVG to try them and cards that looked like 8s came back as 5s. Given these were older BVGs I thought they would at least cross evenly but was surprised to see how some really jumped. Was also very happy with my raw cards.

[toledo_mudhen]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

The absolute opposite experience I’ve had with crossing BVG to PSA, but I’m genuinely happy (though surprised) to see your success.

BVG or BGS?



I have had absolute zero luck crossing BGS to either PSA or SGC

[Leon]

Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen

BVG or BGS?

I have had absolute zero luck crossing BGS to either PSA or SGC

Pre war isn't generally graded by BGS, as far as I know. I know there are some pre war cards out there, in those holders, but most are in BVG holders. As for BGS, can't really answer that question. I know BVG does a good job of grading but I don't think the company behind them gives them all the resources they need to succeed ie...good marketing.