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Guess Frank was 'CONFLICTED'
Posted By: Tom Boblitt
Guess everyone saying it was a counterfeit just wasn't enough. Not sure? Hmm.............. |
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Guess Frank was 'CONFLICTED'
Posted By: runscott
Sometimes I wonder how many ebayers I alienate by sending "you are a jackass" emails. But this guy knows he's selling a modern reproduction, so in my opinion he's a loser for trying to screw some unsuspecting fool. |
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Guess Frank was 'CONFLICTED'
Posted By: Brian C Daniels
Your too funny! |
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Posted By: MW
"We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out." -- Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962. |
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Posted By: David
Other than what has been posted here, I have no knowledge about this item, fake or original. However, in instances like this where the owner does not know if the item is old or new or somewhere inbetween, someone experienced in the area of prints should, or at least can, be consulted. It is a simple and painless task to determinine if an item like this was made in the 1880s or modern times. |
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Posted By: David
For the benifit of the lurkers who walk amongst us, the 'dot scenario' was, in this instance, being applied to this item only, and not to all prints or all cards. In other words, there are some 1880s prints that can have an extensive dot pattern-- just not this kind. |
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Posted By: Frank
I made the Old Judge Ad that listed (briefly) on ebay on my auction software last week (before Jay Miller and others told me it was a fake item) and had scheduled it to post last night. |
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Guess Frank was 'CONFLICTED'
Posted By: runscott
He sent me an email and said he had forgotten to cancel it, but wasn't trying to pull a fast one. It wasn't the typical "backwoods grammar" email and he sounded sincere. (Tom, I purposely left out references to Kentucky ) |
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Guess Frank was 'CONFLICTED'
Posted By: Frank
Scott mentioned some reluctance to contact ebay sellers about obviously erroneous or fraudulent items. |
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Posted By: David
At appears that Frank honestly doesn't know whether the item is new or old (though suspects it's old), and his eBay description reflect this. It doesn't appear that the description is bad. |
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Posted By: David
To clarify the omission of word, Red Faber's wife used to sign for a lot of her husband's requests-- so if you have a Red Faber autograph, it's prudent to see if it's his wife's. Luckly, the two are different from each other. And, yes, Spence did write an article on the subject, which should be archived at CU/PSA. |
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Guess Frank was 'CONFLICTED'
Posted By: Frank
I agree with you completely. It is not a good idea to put an item out for auction with such a degree of uncertainty about what it really is. |
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Guess Frank was 'CONFLICTED'
Posted By: David
Frank, just to clairify the original intent of my posts-- it was intended to be a sentence or two, but, typical to me, ended up being several posts, with me rebutting and re-rebutting and re-re-rebutting my earlier posts--, was that your eBay listing, if premature, did not appear deceptive to me. |
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Guess Frank was 'CONFLICTED'
Posted By: runscott
In this case it wasn't a matter of how many pixels,etc. - sometimes you can determine authenticity of an item by other means. In this case, it was pointed out that painting were made in the '80s and prints were made from the paintings. |
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Posted By: Frank
I agree with Scott as to the authenticity of my Old Judge Items. |
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Guess Frank was 'CONFLICTED'
Posted By: warshawlaw
I don't buy the "I don't know so here it is" school of salesmanship. I don't know if this seller is honest or not; I don't really care. I for one am sick and tired of sellers posting stuff that they have no idea about then bailing out when the s***storm hits. Where is the integrity and the diligence to make sure that the things you are selling are what they seem to be? To do otherwise risks your reputation, and for so little. . . |
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Posted By: David
But Scott, I don't make my hourly rate when people figure out things on their own. Whoever invented the 'by your own bootstraps' was bad for business. My business slogan is "pay me big bucks and you won't have to worry your pretty little heads with thoughts." |
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Posted By: TBob
His humor cut through all the political correctness b.s. like a hot scalpel. It was a welcome (although granted profane) change of pace. |
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Guess Frank was 'CONFLICTED'
Posted By: jay behrens
but George Carlin is still with us, and he is still the best at cutting thru PC crap. |
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