Show your oldest piece of memorabilia.

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Posted By: Clint

Mine's probably this Dewitt Guide. It contains rules, scores, rosters and pictures of equipment from long ago. You can show multiples if you want. Barry I expect to see some books from you.

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

I'm pretty sure this is the oldest piece I own....1882

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Posted By: Clint

Dan- I know you've showed that many times, I have to say I really like that photo. Do you have any idea where it's from. It's got lots of character.

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Posted By: Joe

Photo says 1858, but not sure when it was actually made. It's a second generation piece, but still the earliest thing I have.

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Posted By: Mike H

My oldest non-card piece is probably one of my bats or one other photo, but this is a dated piece 1897.

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Posted By: barrysloate

I'll try to scan something tomorrow.

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Clint, I have no idea where it's from unfortunately. I can be pretty certain that it's from 1882 though because the rules regarding uniforms of this type were only in effect in that year. It's one of those photos that I think I will always wonder about.

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Posted By: Rob L

c1850s Townball Bat




November 1865 - Crieghton Memorial Woodcut



Rob L

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Posted By: Jason Mishelow

Ad for Robin Carver's Book of Sports Earliest Wood Cut of baseball 1834

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Posted By: barrysloate

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Here are two early pieces from my collection. Sorry for the poor images.

The first is a triple plate panoramic photo of the 1867 Nationals of Albany. In those days photographers did have have the technology to make a panorama, so they would shoot three different images and put them side by side to create the effect. Notice that the curtains do not exactly match up. The Nationals were a strong NY state team, and did in fact play the Red Stockings during their 1869 tour (and got trounced). The photo measures 26" x 9" and is in its original frame.

The second piece is a Peck & Snyder advertising banner from 1869. It was folded up and tucked into a Haney Guide, as issued. In 1869 P&S purchased the Haney Guide, which they sold in their store and used to advertise their sporting goods equipment. When I purchased this guide about ten years ago, the banner was amazingly still attached and folded into the front cover where it remained for nearly 130 years. As such, while the seams and folds had some separation, the hand colored images looked absolutely perfect, having never seen the light of day. These are extremely rare, and this one measures about 22" x 16".

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Posted By: ramram

1867 team scorebook.

Rob M.

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Posted By: Clint

Wow Barry! Where have you been hiding that panorama? Simply unbelievable.

Clint

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Posted By: barrysloate

Thanks Clint- haven't been hiding it- it's right on the wall! And it originated from an estate in Albany- it was with the same family for generations. It's never been on the market.

And I apologize for making this thread too wide. I know it's my fault.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Rob- did you get that scorebook from me? I know I had it at one point.

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Posted By: Joe_G.

Simply amazing Barry!, that is an unbelievable piece. Thanks for sharing!

Best Regards,
Joe Gonsowski

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Posted By: ramram

No Barry, I actually got it via Max a while back (thanks Max) but I'm sure it passed through your hands at some point. I'd find it in my heart to trade it for your Albany image though!!!

Rob

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Posted By: Jimmy Leiderman

Barry, thanks for sharing the pics.
Both items are simply amazing.

If memory serves me right, I think there's a similar P&S advertising banner in the Kashmanian book "Baseball Treasures".

Btw, I think I see Ed Sprague in the third panel of the panorama.
He was a pretty good player and played for both the Nationals and Harvard while attending college.

I think the oldest piece of memorabilia left in my collection is this CdV.
Only info is that it originated from a NJ collection.
The image is mounted on very thin board, early 60's style.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Yes Jimmy, Ed Sprague is in the photo.

John Kashmanian had the only other advertising piece I know of like this one but I didn't think it was as nice, although it did say Peck & Snyder on it. Mine for some reason doesn't.

And Rob- scorebook for the Albanys. I'll have to take a pass.

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Posted By: John Harrell

Here's a town ball bat from the 1850-60's period.

John

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Posted By: Max Weder

Rob

Nice 1867 scorebook

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Posted By: Joe D.

When I go to Barry's, I have to start looking at the walls.

great photo barry!

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Posted By: Greg Theberge

Certainly not as old as all the other great stuff shown here, but considering the only team I collect goes back to 1901, this goes back to (1903).

I've got to get some new stuff, you guys must be tired of looking at the stuff I keep posting

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Posted By: barrysloate

Joe- you've been in my office many times. Did you really miss it?

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Posted By: Clint

Greg, I never get tired of seeing truly rare items like yours. I was thinking the other day I'd like to see you Red Sox display again. Heck I'd like to see Barry's panorama about once a month, more if it was on my wall instead.

Clint

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Posted By: Joe D.

that I did miss it.

Its is so striking, I can't imagine that I noticed it and then forgot.


(I do remember some amazing posters... and I believe I remarked that Kieth O'Leary would love to see them. Did you ever post those? Or am I losing my mind and there were no posters?)

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Barry just needs to take some pics of his walls and post them.

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Posted By: Chris Counts

The oldest thing I own is this 1906 scorecard. What's really great about it is that I collect Eddie Grant memorabilia, and he just happened to be playing this day for Lynn, Mass. ...

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Posted By: Patrick

Here is my oldest Chicago Cubs (White Stockings) program. It is from September 18, 1871 versus Philadelphia. It is a single double sided page. Also has a neat add at the bottom for Lyman's Patent Self-Adusting Bat. Can't be toom many of these programs around since most of Chicago burned down in October 1871. I also have an 1871 Chicago White Stockings Season Pass that I will dig out and post.

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Posted By: David Atkatz

How about the only known scorecard from Hilltop Park, 10 October 1904, when Chesbro's wild pitch sent the visiting Royal Rooters into ecstasy, and the 1904 pennant to Boston:

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Posted By: Greg Theberge

Very cool scorecard!

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Posted By: jason

Hi Guys - I am back! My son is not quite as much as a drain on my time now he is a little older.

Anyway, here is the oldest remaining piece of memorobilia in my collection - an 1861 civil war baseball sword presented to Quatermaster Robert Ellis by the Eagle Base Ball Club.

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Posted By: Bert Wright

Ok..wow...that sword is now on my dream list. Unbelievable, Jason!

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Posted By: barrysloate

Hi Jason- how are things? Haven't spoken in a while. Regards, Barry

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Posted By: Matt

I always wondered why there are no recorded incidents of charging the mound from the 19th Century. Now I know.

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Posted By: Jimmy Leiderman

Hi Jason, long time.

Like I told you many times, that sword is simply amazing.

Museum material!

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Posted By: jason

Hi Guys, nice to be back and even nicer to hear from you! Things have been very busy for me what with a new job and young Branden Harry Wright both demanding their time (not to mention an imposing Mrs Wright vying for attention).

With the number of early baseball images on the market dwindling rapidly (apart from Barry’s lovely Crossly CDV of course), I have turned more of my attention to early daguerreotype photography a bit like Mark (Rucker) has done. That said, I still hope to spend more of my free time hanging around here with you kind gents!

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Posted By: CarltonHendricks

This is pretty far off from baseball memorabila...but I think it is my earliest piece...c1862....Lincoln was president from 1861-1865 so that helps put it in perspctive... It was printed by Endicott and Co. of New York City. I'm open to correction but as far as I know it is the earliest American sports related chromolithograph poster extant. Dimensions are: 28 3/4" tall by 22 1/2" wide



Barry, Could you please repost your Peck & Snyder advertising banner from 1869? I have to see that!!!! And Jason..Please repost your 1861 Eagle Base Ball Club Civil War Sword...that I gotta see!!!!!

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Posted By: barrysloate

Carlton- I will at some point. My wife does my scanning, so I need to catch her when she has some free time.

We will try to get the scan up this evening.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Hi Carlton- here is the advertising banner. If you have any questions, please ask.
Edited to add it's not this washed out in person. Bad photo.

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Posted By: CarltonHendricks

What a museum piece....I seem to remember seeing it in a book.....22" x 16" ay...wow great, and like you say never on the market! Thanks for sharing.

Below is a silk banner John Kanuit was selling at the 2004 National.....I passed but $600 seems cheap now.
Circa 1880’s silk banner for Wickwire Spencer Athletic Association, Clinton Mass., 24 ¾” wide by 35 “ tall, $600.00

You can barely see it in this booth shot of Kanuit's booth, actually the booth was shared by John Orban, and Mark Nash as well

You can read more on the 2004 National at my site link below:
http://www.sportsantiques.com/new_page_20.htm

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Posted By: barrysloate

Carlton- John Kashmanian pictured one in his book "Baseball Treasures." While his was not as detailed as mine, it did have Peck & Snyder's name printed on it.