Ok it's oc but why is the card psa1?

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Posted By: Brad

Ok the card is oc but why is the card psa1?



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8824436621&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

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Posted By: peter ullman

is that like a burn hole...maybe from a cig above his left eye?

pee in mn

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Posted By: JudgeDred2

I wondered the same thing when I first saw that card. I figured the seller isn't crying about the grade so there's something that isn't obvious in the scan that isn't being disclosed in the item description. I have a PSA1 34 Goudey that appears beautiful but there is a rather large paper tear that isn't quite visible in a scan. The ebay seller I purchased the card from disclosed the problem and I didn't think it was that bad. Technically the card deserved a "1" but aesthetically, it presented well, like this Ruth card.

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Posted By: Brad

Do you think the guy who submitted the card just didn't want the qualifier "OC" and would rather have a grade 1?

wouldn't you pay more for the card that was a pas2oc, do they even have that?

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Posted By: Al C.risafulli

Can't see the back. I'd bet there's paper loss or glue stains or some other such catastrophe.

-Al

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Posted By: steve f

Multiple creases across middle. Still, nice card.

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Posted By: Bob Pomilla

You might want to edit your post.

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Posted By: Rob

My experience with PSA has been there are grade uppers (where a card is borderline it goes to the next higher grade), or the grade downers (where a borderline card drops to the lower grade). This card got a downer. I don't think it's undergraded, but could have been easily a 2.

My pet peeve about card grading in general is no information is provided from the companies as to whether they test their graders and take other steps to ensure grades assigned will be consistent regardless of who grades the card. I'm guessing the companies don't do that because 1) that type of activity doesn't generate revenue and 2) Achieving consistency regardless of who is grading would drastically cut down on the resubmissions, which probably accounts for 5% of their business, and 3) I don't see collectors demanding grading consistency, so theres no point to acvhieve consistency.

For the right price, the buyer may want to resubmit this card to get an upper.

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Posted By: JudgeDred2

Bob,

That's pee to you.

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Posted By: Sean

The back looks clean, but I think Pee is right with the mark above his eye.

Sean BH
I pee in MN to

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Posted By: Spencer

listen to steve f.

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Posted By: Anonymous

Steve is correct ... multiple creases right across the middle of the card. The card was definitely folded in half at some point. There must be some slight paper loss, or perhaps some paper separation which has been folded/pressed back down, which is not evident from the scan.

Also, the card is off-center, and has four rounded corners, which of course didn't help the grade.

Still, a great looking 1.

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Posted By: joe

Most of you have better eyes than I do, Especially I sure don't see how this card was folded. Where are the signs?

Joe

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Posted By: jay behrens

I used my 43" HDtv for a monitor and I can't see and crease

Jay

Growing old is not optional, growing up is.

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Posted By: Kyle

Look between the top and second buttons, its there you can see it. At first I didn't, but upon a closer look they stand out.

-Kyle-

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Posted By: Zach Rice

Here is a picture of the Ruth with the contrast really skewed. The two red circles circle where the crease can be seen most obvious.

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Posted By: jay behrens

I noticed the notch on the right side, but couldn't make go all the way across the card

Jay

Growing old is not optional, growing up is.

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Posted By: Brian

I saw this card, too, and queried the seller. His only response was that the card had creases across the uniform that do not show up in the scan. Scans definitely don't show everything, but if this is true, the grade makes no sense. Would not be the first time.

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Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)

$1224

Someone really liked the way this card looked. It looked mucy better than any "1" 34G Ruth I've ever seen. Someone bought the card and not the holder on this one!

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Posted By: Ricky Y

Most definitely an attractive card and the price reflects it.

As others have stated and also on other threads...PSA 1 grade tends to run the gamit from absolutely bow wow cards to pretty ones like this.

Ricky