show me a card with a rebuilt corner

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Posted By: cmoking

Over the last month, I've been reading about the possibility of many cards with rebuilt corners in graded holders. I have never seen one in person...or if I have, I guess I didn't realize what I saw.

I did look at the T206 Plank in the Mastro auction. If I didn't know from their description, I wouldn't have questioned the corners as being rebuilt.

Does anyone have scans of cards with rebuilt coners - either raw or in holders? Are there any telltale signs to look for to avoid these cards?

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Posted By: davidcycleback

Circa 1980s, there was a guy who rebuilt the corners on Goudeys. If you held the cards up to the light, the corners let through a different amount of light. The restoration involved glue and chemicals, so a black light would likely help.

Rebuilt corners and other major surgery is generally straightforward to identify. Also, it's expensive and time consuming, so it will only be done to expensive cards like a 1933 Goudey Ruth or T206 Cobb.

Rebuilt corners are rare on the market and the resulting card will often appear highest grade, like Nrmt-Mt or Mint. Someone collecting lower grade cards cards, especially ones with worn corners, doesn't have to worry about rebuilt corners.

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Posted By: jay behrens

The guy that I knew about that was rebuilding corners on Goudeys in the 80s did work that was undetectable. I have no clue if he is still around or if any of these cards are in slabs, but I know I couldn't tell the work was done when I saw the cards. He used to buy up beat commons and use the paper from those cards to rebuild the corners. Beyond that, I don't know what processes he used.

Jay

I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: scott brockelman

Not only did he rebuild them to be undectable, however he marked most or all of them. He also did a study on the different types of cardboard laminates used and on which sheets and which were the most difficult to rebuild. Quite a bit of detailed research is available in the Old Judge newletters of the 1980's

Scott

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Posted By: barrysloate

Scott is correct. Tom was an ethical restorer and always added a dot to the back of a card he worked on to show that it had been restored. There are many others who are less ethical.

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

I've been intending to post somewhere the location of the Tom Faith article on 1933 Goudey layers and laminates. It is in TOJ #15. Mr. Faith's article on card restoration is in TOJ #26.

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Posted By: cmoking

Thanks guys. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of those two issues of TOJ?

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Posted By: scott brockelman

Send me your smail mail address and I'll go thru all the Old Judges and make copies of them and send to you.

Scott

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Posted By: davidcycleback

I don't know him personally, but heard this guy quit restoring cards a good number of years ago due to the toxicity of the chemicals used. He became allergic to them or so something like that.

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Posted By: sagard

Here are some links from this boards archives that has one of the articles in VCBC#7.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/message/1097533534/

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Posted By: cmoking

Thanks Scott! I'm sending you my mailing address now.

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Posted By: Harry Wallace (HW)

They were really not that good. The added stock did not match the original card that well.

I would think that any of the legitimate grading services could tell immediately.

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Posted By: B.C.Daniels

I found 19 so far in my collection!
Jim?

BcD