ripped or trimmed ?

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Posted By: Dan Koteles

seeing cards with ripped corners and in PSA 1's and SGC 10's....what really is the difference?....shouldnt they be in "A" holders?

For that matter ,why wouldnt someone just rip the trimmed area and get a numerical grade, afterall the severe rounded corners with numerical grades are all trimmed.

UNless the card is so rare just to have one, garbage in my opinion.

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Posted By: fkw

One is intentional and the other usually is accidental and part of normal wear.

Trimming involves intentionally altering the full length or width of the card, corner damage is different and can happen to any card that was not protected for 75+ years.

Many sets are so delicate with brittle stock that the corners will just break and fall off sometimes, ie. T222, T200, E145-1, W512, etc.

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Posted By: Dylan

I see a lot nice looking authentics out selling poor graded cards anyways. I would often rather have a card with superior eye appeal thats "A" for some small alteration then a beat to hell 1.

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Posted By: quan

I agree that if a corner is ripped off (like some CJs), it should be in A holders. I don't understand numerical grades on cards with obvious missing piece/chunk (I'm not talking about a dinged T222 corner). For a tear I can see a PSA1/SGC10 grade.

For me pinhole>small tear>half the back missing>rip>trim>piss poor cards...I would generally pay more for a 1/10 than an A card although I try to avoid all the above. I'd take G/VG cards with rounding corners and a light crease/wrinkle any day.

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Posted By: warshawlaw

is one of the most artificial and irritating ones out there. If a card has a corner bashed off accidentally they will give it a 1; intentionally cut off, they often won't grade it. I've had exhibits with the coupons removed rejected for that when other cards with even greater total surface area % missing are graded. Drives me crazy.

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Posted By: basestealer b. basestealer

I believe a trimmed card, or a card missing a piece of portion of it, is poor condition card. It should grade as such. Before grading services came to be, that is how it was done. When a card was scribbled on, marked with markers, cut, abused, or heavily worn--it became a poor condition card. Very little resale value, but good as a filler until a replacement could be found. The only thing that should be bodybagged is a counterfeit.