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Cabinet is mine. Four Base Hits is owned by that well known "Renowned Lurker".

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I'd post mine but they'd no longer be esoteric if I did....so I won't.

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Very early Mordecai Brown



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Scott, that has to be the first appearance by Brown on any minor league issue, right?

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I would say it has to be since the 1901 Terre Haute Hottentots were Brown's first professional team he played with. In 1902 he played for Omaha of the Western League. By 1903 he was a major leaguer.

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As Dan has outlined, yes, I believe so.

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Joe, you over at your grandmother's tonight?

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Joe McCarthy as a minor league player.

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A fine cabinet, Paul. What is it??

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1904 Eastern League Champions including Rookie pictures of the following ballplayers that are in the T206 and T207 sets.....

Bill Clymer
Frank Delehanty
Myron Grimshaw
Rube Kissinger
Frank La Porte
Bill Nattress
Al Shaw
Stan Yerkes




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Hey Ted, your photo actually shows Otis Clymer (Not Bill) and Joe Delahanty (Not Frank).

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Wonderful item, Ted!!!

And Manager Stallings went on to win the 1914 World Series. He was quite a baseball man. Lots of good players with Buffalo, there.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

I checked my 1905 Spalding Base Ball Guide on these guys. I mistakenly ID'd Frank for Joe Delehanty. And, I should've
known better for two reasons....the cameo does not look like Frank; and, besides Frank was only 19 years old in 1904.

Now Clymer is another story. The T206 listing ID's Clymer as Bill and that's where I think there's a problem. The Clymer
in the T206 set I think is actually Otis Clymer. If this is true you have discovered an error in the T206 listing.

Thank you for setting me straight.

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From the Halper Collection and an early baseball cabinet.

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Posted By: Phil Garry

One of the only appearances of HOF'er Frank Selee and also includes John Clarkson, Kid Nichols & King Kelly. This piece is actually a scorecard with the boxscore printed on back (I don't have a scan of the back available).



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Posted By: Jon Canfield

Ted - beautiful cabinet... wished I owned it. However, I do have some earlier images of Myron Moose Grimshaw. He lived in my home town so I have always been a Myron collector and have conversed many times with his grandson (now in his 80's and living in Florida). He still possesses photos of Myron in uniform dating back to '99.

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Bruce sent me this to share with the board. Say what you want to but Bruce does have some lizard skin and is a good sport about letting things not get to him too much....And he does share more than many others do too......It's always nice to see awesome cards....

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To match my N172...

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Have posted this before. Also from the Halper collection:

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The Wagner is not technically a cabinet.

Scott, do you own all of those Chickerings?!?

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Leon, can you provide some background on Bruce's KB?

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Sorry, the Dorskind Group will have to answer that. Whilst we would like to we believe it's in the best interest of all concerned to let them speak for themselves I can only add it was sent to me with no other description other than asking to post it for them.....regards

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Kalamazoo Team Cabinets are exceedingly rare, indeed.

The first three we ever saw were in Sir Edward Wharton Tigar's London flat
back in 1978.

Two of those cards eventually were traded to Lew Lipset.

Our example, one of two known was from Wharton Tigar's collection, albeit
we added to our collection as the result of a complex purchase within the past
decade.

To the best our knowledge there are only 8 surviving examples

Boston- 2
Detroit 1
Athletics 2
Philadelphia 2
Pittsburgh (the rarest of the team cards) 1
Baltimore-we have never seen a KB team cabinet

There is one example in the Spalding collection at the New York Public Library. We believe
it was the Philadelphia team.

Sir Edward Wharton Tigar does describe these cards in the second edition of his
infamous book, "The World Tobacco Index" Said Index (in four parts) is must reading
for any serious historian of the hobby.

Bruce Dorskind
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Frank, sorry I didn't respond sooner. The McCarthy is a T5 Pinkerton.

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Posted By: CoreyRS.hanus

Nice cabinet Bruce. Your list is very accurate. Some minor modifications. To my knowledge the Spalding collection has only imperial cabinets, not cabinets. They are all of Philadelphia N.L. Also, I believe there are two known Detroit cabinets. BTW, adding imperial cabinets to the mix, besides what the Spalding collection has, there is one known imperial cabinet of Boston. Interestingly, inasmuch as its resolution exceeds that of the cabinet, it is probably the proof used to make both the cabinet and the card.

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Richard, when did you pick that KB up? I haven't seen one of those in an auction ever. What great cards.

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The Boston Kbat was from Mile High. I was underbidder

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Anyone have a Conly cab to post?

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...how much I am totally enjoying this thread. Great idea and long overdue. Thanks everyone.

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I'm not absolutely sure what Esoteric means but I'm not missing a chance to post these.

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Posted By: Joe_G.

Another great thread, filled with outstanding cabinets.

Steve Murray - Neat comparison between the Sullivan cabinet and the Four Base Hits. Ever notice how the two differ near the bottom where the chest transitions to a cloudy background?

Scott Brockelman - Amazing, I really like Bruce Babcock's Duffy, but your stash makes them appear collectable. Great group of cabinets.

Love the K-Bat team cabinets. Corey, Bruce, do you believe there to be a 2nd Detroit K-Bat cabinet? I thought the recent Mastro example was the only known copy, discovered over the last year.

Lastly, I needed to add at least a single Tomlinson to the thread. It's not the most thrilling Tomlinson, but one I haven't shared in the past. It features Henry Gruber in street clothes (Detroit Wolverine pitcher at time of picture).



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Trimmed but I love the image:

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I don't collect cabinet cards so I will cheat with the first professional (to me) baseball card....

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