The Card - unsettled questions

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Posted By: Jim

I suppose this predates my looking in on this board, but a couple months back I read the O'Keeffe book "The Card..." and I had some lingering doubts about some of the tell-all aspects of the story behind the "Gretsky" Wagner.

Basically, if the card was supposedly cut from a printer's sheet in a Long Island strip mall as O'Keefe claimed, what happened to the rest of the sheet? The guy who first sold the card for $20k claimed he was having financial difficulties and let it go because he needed the cash (it was a library book long ago returned so I can't recall his name). But if this guy did in fact have a printer's sheet, there would have been multiple Wagners on the sheet right? - when you see miscut cards, the same subject's name appears at the top of the card and this would be the only practical way to print them. So a sheet of uncut cards would have as many Wagners as it had rows. If the guy had a sheet and was in financial trouble, why didn't he cut more Wagners out and sell those? In other words, why haven't we seen a handful of NM cards come on the market in the last 15 years?

On the other hand, I recently happened upon a BIN from someone in Little Rock with a "jumbo" Wagner asking something like $2.5m.

All in all, the story in the book didn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

Anyone else who has read the book (or has an opinion in any event) come away with the same sense.

Just curious.

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Posted By: peter ullman

what about the uncut strip that barry halper used to own...that had/has a wagner on it...it is a horizontal strip. I'd guess the gretsky wags would have been cut from a similar...horizontal strip.

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Posted By: chris

...so I HAVE to do this (it's kind of a National requirement)

It's Gretzky not Gretsky

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Posted By: David McDonald

Yeah. It's Gretzky with a zed. Get with the programme.

Just funnin', Peter.

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Posted By: peter ullman

sorry guys...I'm not canadian...i can't spell hockey players' names...not even "the great one!"

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Posted By: George

The venue was not in a strip mall. It was in Bob Sevchuk's store on Jerusalem Avenue in Hicksville, which is indeed on Long Island. It was an old-fahioned store, with old wood floors and lots of dust. And it had a back room. What went on in there, no one knows. Actually, some people do know, but they are not talking at the present time.

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Posted By: Don

Was Wagner even released in Piedmont packs or are all Piedmont Wagners cut from sheets?

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Posted By: Scott Fandango

if there were more (from a sheet) they would have surfaced by now...especially how public the last few sales were....

thats the only wag that will ever come close to that grade...

any "new finds" would certainly be beaters.....

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Posted By: davidcycleback

The only other known Piedmont Wagner is oversized and handcut. It resembles a scrap, not a factory cut card put in a pack.

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Posted By: T206Collector

...is that it was a strip not a sheet, and there was only one Wagner on the strip.

This card has been discussed a lot on here. Check my Net54 T206 archive here for more details:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzewll4b/t206collector/id44.html



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