1933 Goudey Ruth (yellow background)???

[jg8422]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...E:B:SS:US:1123

Thoughts? Seem suspicious? Seller doesn't have much feedback and the feedback listed is mostly all for fishing accessories. I didn't see any feedback for cards.

[sycks22]

Someone that sells elmo DVD's for $3 and never has sold a card on ebay doesn't have a $40k Ruth. Just my thoughts.

[Leon]

If I were interested in that card, from that seller, they and I would be having a nice chat on the phone before I bid. It's as easy as that.

[ctownboy]

Under Feed Back as a buyer, it shows he bought a Galasso 1933 Goudey Ruth #53 reprint on December 19.

David

[buymycards]

This card looks like it would grade around VG/EX.

[zljones]

If it is not real then how did he get in a PSA case without frosted edges? I am not defending the seller but I am simply wondering if fakes can get THAT complex where they can avoid frosting I would like to know.

[thenextlevel]

I wouldnt trust anything suspicious coming from the State College PA area. A few years ago, I had to pay a personal visit to a scammer, who happened to be a college student selling bogus stuff for some big scammer, who was giving him material to sell. I saw other auctions from sellers around that area over the years, that were bogus. Probably the top guys mo, get college kids looking for money to sell his garbage.

[bbcard1]

I would rather not post it up for anyone to see, but if you have worked much with plastic, there is a simple way to remove the frosting.

[CW]

Originally Posted by zljones

If it is not real then how did he get in a PSA case without frosted edges? I am not defending the seller but I am simply wondering if fakes can get THAT complex where they can avoid frosting I would like to know.

How can you tell that the edges are NOT frosted (especially with the near white background the seller uses for the photos)?

[Runscott]

Well, the first obvious red flag is that the card shown is not near-mint. Given that, you know there's been hanky-panky. The next question you ask yourself is, "Do I want to give this guy grief over this?"

I hope everyone's having a great Christmas.

[CW]

As an aside, but somewhat related to the topic, I thought that was a very strong price for the PSA 8 '33 Goudey Ruth #53 in the Dec. Goodwin auction ($48K w/ BP). I would never be in the market for such a card, but it's nice to see some strong interest in these old pieces of cardboard, despite the economy.

http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotDetai...gher%E2%80%9D!

[Runscott]

The seller of this card said to take it up with "Memory Lanes"

[daves_resale_shop]

Most definitely not an 8...

Smells fishy to me.

[zljones]

Originally Posted by bbcard1

I would rather not post it up for anyone to see, but if you have worked much with plastic, there is a simple way to remove the frosting.

you just answered my question. That is scary as hell that they can get that clever.

[zljones]

Originally Posted by CW

How can you tell that the edges are NOT frosted (especially with the near white background the seller uses for the photos)?

I can't see any frosting and I can't tell if there is none either, the photo sucks, but I was mainly seeing if there is a process of sliding one in without frosting or reversing it.

[CW]

Originally Posted by zljones

I can't see any frosting and I can't tell if there is none either, the photo sucks, but I was mainly seeing if there is a process of sliding one in without frosting or reversing it.

Cool, no problem -- it is tough to tell with that photo. I guess regardless, and as others have pointed out, the card looks like crap as well.

[thenextlevel]

Originally Posted by zljones

I can't see any frosting and I can't tell if there is none either, the photo sucks, but I was mainly seeing if there is a process of sliding one in without frosting or reversing it.

I don't know if this is what they do, but I found that as soon as I received my submissions back from PSA, if I didn't like a grade, I popped the card out immediately, and hardly ever frosted a case. I wonder if it is because whatever they use to seal the case, hasn't cured yet. Just my observations regarding their cases.

[zljones]

Very interesting, now I am going to have to pay even closer attention to the graded cards I buy, so far I have only been ripped off once and it was an ungraded card, but I do not want to be ripped off anymore. Luckily I only got taken for $25.

[Guttapercha]

I am new to the board, but have collected cards when I was young. For the record the 1933 goudey ruth #53 PSA 8 on ebay was real. I purchased the card from memory lane and have no problem having them take a look at it as a third party in the case of the sale of it. Yes I bought 2 replicas. That was for me to put in a little frame on my desk as a memory of the card. I have many other high end cards which I have never sold. I hope to enjoy this message board in the future. I have recently gotten back into collecting cards and hope to be able to view your cards , thoughts, and share my cards with you all.