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margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>Peter_Spaeth</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=1740790#post1740790" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">I don\'t know how to do a poll, but I will make you a gentleman\'s bet that if someone starts one with the question, is it acceptable to take creases out of cards, a strong majority will say no.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>It would depend on if they are selling or buying.<img src="forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" />\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1740791" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1740791 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1740791_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">bnorth</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=307554">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=307554" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to bnorth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=307554" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by bnorth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1740791 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1740791 -' + '->';
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margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>Peter_Spaeth</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=1740790#post1740790" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">I don\'t know how to do a poll, but I will make you a gentleman\'s bet that if someone starts one with the question, is it acceptable to take creases out of cards, a strong majority will say no.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I think someone should start a poll of what is acceptable and what is not, but include the following:<br />\n<br />\nSoaking in water <br />\nSoaking in chemicals<br />\nCard stretching<br />\nRe-coloring<br />\nRemoving creases<br />\nPower erasing<br />\nTrimming<br />\nRebuilding<br />\nRemoving wax stains<br />\nAnything else you can think of<br />\n<br />\nI think you would have to qualify it by stating that for the sake of argument that the restoration/alteration would never be detectable, which would a buyer find acceptable and which would a buyer find not acceptable.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; 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By any means whatsoever?  Then I will fight the question, because there is very little if anything that couldn\'t be detected with sophisticated enough equipment.  I would prefer that the qualification be assume the card nonetheless gets slabbed by ordinary review, or something like that.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				Four phrases I nave coined that sum up today\'s hobby:<br />\r\nNo consequences.<br />\r\nStuff trumps all.<br />\r\nThe flip is the commoodity.<br />\r\nAnimal Farm grading.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 01-21-2018 at <span class="time">09:28 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1740816" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1740816 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1740816_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Peter_Spaeth</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=43">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1740816 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1740816 -' + '->';
pd[1740820] = '<!-' + '- post #1740820 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit1740820" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post1740820" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=1740820&amp;postcount=4" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount1740820" name="4"><strong>4</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post1740820"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				01-21-2018, 09:52 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_1740820">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=3880">vintagetoppsguy</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="vintagetoppsguy is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_1740820", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nD@v!d J@m3s\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Banned\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Sep 2009</div>\r\n					<div>Location: Houston, TX</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 5,981\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_1740820">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_1740820">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>Peter_Spaeth</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=1740816#post1740816" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Then I will fight the question, because there is very little if anything that couldn\'t be detected with sophisticated enough equipment.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I agree with this statement.  I was thinking more about the creases and the argument I hear is that a crease could come back later.  I can certainly understand that concern.  But my reply to that is, if you can remove the crease the first time, just do it again.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nBut we could word the poll as you suggested.  I just don\'t think the poll would be answered honestly.  Julie wrote 32 years ago she\'s fine with a crease being removed.  Lew even said that he thought most of the card community would agree.  Where did he get this assumption?  By talking to / surveying collectors.  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I was thinking more about the creases and the argument I hear is that a crease could come back later.  I can certainly understand that concern.  But my reply to that is, if you can remove the crease the first time, just do it again.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nBut we could word the poll as you suggested.  I just don\'t think the poll would be answered honestly.  Julie wrote 32 years ago she\'s fine with a crease being removed.  Lew even said that he thought most of the card community would agree.  Where did he get this assumption?  By talking to / surveying collectors.  So, what\'s changed in the last 32 years that it was acceptable then, but not now?</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I can\'t speak for Julie or Lew, but I have been collecting as an adult for nearly that long and have always felt that taking out creases was unacceptable and I believe most of the people I have known feel the same way.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				Four phrases I nave coined that sum up today\'s hobby:<br />\r\nNo consequences.<br />\r\nStuff trumps all.<br />\r\nThe flip is the commoodity.<br />\r\nAnimal Farm grading.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1740821" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1740821 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1740821_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Peter_Spaeth</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=43">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1740821 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1740821 -' + '->';
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I infer <b>new</b> as to mean there were other previous Net54 members that have used his service as well.  Spooning out a crease was acceptable by most 32 years ago, it\'s acceptable by most today.  Here\'s the problem.  With social media/message boards, everyone wants to brag how moral and upstanding they are to make themselves look good, so most won\'t admit to it.  That\'s why I said your poll wouldn\'t have honest results.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nHeck, here\'s a thread where Dan McKee admits to spooning out creases.  It\'s a very interesting read.  Oh, and wait for it...the most overused Net54 term..."Dan\'s a good guy."  Sure, it says so in post #29.  It\'s right there in black and white, you can read it for yourself.   My point is that it happens a lot, most people just don\'t admit it.  At least Dan admitted it...<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<a href="http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=147105&amp;highlight=Green+cobb" target="_blank">http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ght=Green+cobb</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\nDick Towelle got banned for removing creases.  <img src="forum/images/smilies/confused.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Confused" class="inlineimg" />\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1740826" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1740826 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1740826_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">vintagetoppsguy</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=3880">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=3880" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by vintagetoppsguy</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1740826 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1740826 -' + '->';
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I infer <b>new</b> as to mean there were other previous Net54 members that have used his service as well.  Spooning out a crease was acceptable by most 32 years ago, it\'s acceptable by most today.  Here\'s the problem.  With social media/message boards, everyone wants to brag how moral and upstanding they are to make themselves look good, so most won\'t admit to it.  That\'s why I said your poll wouldn\'t have honest results.  <br />\n<br />\nHeck, here\'s a thread where Dan McKee admits to spooning out creases.  It\'s a very interesting read.  Oh, and wait for it...the most overused Net54 term..."Dan\'s a good guy."  Sure, it says so in post #29.  It\'s right there in black and white, you can read it for yourself.   My point is that it happens a lot, most people just don\'t admit it.  At least Dan admitted it...<br />\n<br />\n<a href="http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=147105&amp;highlight=Green+cobb" target="_blank">http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ght=Green+cobb</a><br />\n<br />\nDick Towelle got banned for removing creases.  <img src="forum/images/smilies/confused.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Confused" class="inlineimg" /></div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Plus everyone touts they buy the card not holder. but they always sell the holder not the card if they asking for more than what the card  would go for if \'fairly graded\'<br />\n<br />\n<br />\n<br />\nStill this type of thread is done over and over.   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By any means whatsoever?  Then I will fight the question, because there is very little if anything that couldn\'t be detected with sophisticated enough equipment.  I would prefer that the qualification be assume the card nonetheless gets slabbed by ordinary review, or something like that.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>++This.  Where there is a will....<br />\r\n<br />\r\nCardstock is made from pulp, which comes from trees.  If, for example, you examined two 1939 Dimaggio cards, one altered and one unaltered, under intense magnification, I can only assume that the DNA of the chemically altered card would leave some sort of fingerprint.   You wouldn\'t even have to take the cards out of the slab.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe day of reckoning is coming for slabbed altered cards.  When a credible Forth Party Grader comes along to "out" these slabed altered cards, the game is over.   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Arguing with someone who is actually an expert in this field shows how little you know on the subject.  Coming on here and arguing with false information against someone who actually knows what they are doing shows you to be a fool.  David may be to nice to point this out I am not.<br />\n<br />\n   The Mastro statement about every prewar 7 or better being altered is complete BS. He was trying to justify his greed.  Are many, hell yeah, is everyone of them? Absolutely not.<br />\n<br />\n  Every company has made errors saying I use a or b company so i know all my cards aren\'t altered is also a statement that makes one look the fool.  Are some better than others? Absolutely they are, but they are all run by humans therefore they are all going to make mistakes sometimes.<br />\n<br />\n  My suggestion is go out to shows and hang on boards talk to people get educated about the hobby.  There are a lot of honest good hard working people in this hobby.  There is also a lot of scum.  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Arguing with someone who is actually an expert in this field shows how little you know on the subject.  Coming on here and arguing with false information against someone who actually knows what they are doing shows you to be a fool.  David may be to nice to point this out I am not.<br />\r\n<br />\r\n   The Mastro statement about every prewar 7 or better being altered is complete BS. He was trying to justify his greed.  Are many, hell yeah, is everyone of them? Absolutely not.<br />\r\n<br />\r\n  Every company has made errors saying I use a or b company so i know all my cards aren\'t altered is also a statement that makes one look the fool.  Are some better than others? Absolutely they are, but they are all run by humans therefore they are all going to make mistakes sometimes.<br />\r\n<br />\r\n  My suggestion is go out to shows and hang on boards talk to people get educated about the hobby.  There are a lot of honest good hard working people in this hobby.  There is also a lot of scum.  It really isn\'t hidden as well as some make it out to be.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Two thoughts.  One, I hope that we are only talking about mistakes and nothing worse.  I wonder sometimes.  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I wasn\'t offended.<br />\n<br />\nHowever, as someone trained in museum sciences, I can tell you that people here would be amazed at the advanced science that is used in examining art and artifacts.  There are instruments that examine the very molecular structure of material using x-rays, gamma rays and other radiation, and can not only identify what chemicals and substances are in it but their exact concentrations.  They can not only identify a diamond, but, from the chemical structure, tell you where the diamond originated from.<br />\n<br />\nMy research areas and expertise are in authenticity, not condition or grading.  However, many forgeries in art and artifacts involve alterations-' + '- everything making a common print into a rare variation to reconfiguring an ancient vase-' + '-, so identifying later added material, such as when rebuilding the corners of a trading card, is an integral part knowledge of someone in the area. <br />\n<br />\nIf you want to read about the area: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Authenticating-Art-Artifacts-Introduction-Methods/dp/1387447459/ref=sr_1_1/147-2426391-5687626?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1516646991&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=9781387447459" target="_blank">Authenticating Art and Artifacts: An Introduction to Methods and Issues</a><br />\n<br />\nInterestingly, the sports memorabilia hobby does not use many of the advanced methods used by museums.  But for a $9.99 holiday special for a one minute look at your 1957 Topps, that\'s not to be expected.  However, all the looking at scans, researching history and finding issue dates that is done on this board is all good stuff.  Many collectors are legitimate historians and experts on their particular cards. 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T206s and many other sets of that era are on cardstock that\'s probably cotton and linen fibers. It\'s also pretty close to modern acid free cardstock, magazine backing boards are very close. (But not the same thickness, so don\'t even think about it...)<br />\r\n<br />\r\nDNA can be seen, but the process isn\'t simply sticking it in a microscope. <br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAnd it can\'t be seen all that well. <br />\r\nPlus, the pulp could have bits of multiple trees, or other plants. An old papermakers trick if the pulp was too watery was to throw in a bale of straw. That would absorb water as it got ground up in the pulp mixer. <br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>Beastmode</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=1740827#post1740827" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">++This.  Where there is a will....<br />\r\n<br />\r\nCardstock is made from pulp, which comes from trees.  If, for example, you examined two 1939 Dimaggio cards, one altered and one unaltered, under intense magnification, I can only assume that the DNA of the chemically altered card would leave some sort of fingerprint.   You wouldn\'t even have to take the cards out of the slab.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe day of reckoning is coming for slabbed altered cards.  When a credible <a href="https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn22545-dna-imaged-with-electron-microscope-for-the-first-time/Forth" target="_blank">https://www.newscientist.com/article...rst-time/Forth</a> Party Grader comes along to "out" these slabed altered cards, the game is over.   The real question is will anyone care.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI think the poll question should be this:  If there were a foresnic cardstock lab that could determine if your slabbed vintage card was altered, would you pay to have it re-certified?</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1740862" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1740862 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1740862_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">steve B</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=4257">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=4257" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to steve B</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=4257" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by steve B</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1740862 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1740862 -' + '->';
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Any foreign substance removed from any card is an improvement and need not be mentioned to a buyer. </b><br />\n<br />\nI don\'t consider this restoration, such as removing glue residue on the back, but it should at least be pointed out to the buyer. Most buyers IMO are OK with this. <br />\n<br />\n<b>2. Anything added to (like color) a card is fraudulent. Or building up corners. Horrors!</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Agreed.<font color="Red"> How the hell do they rebuild corners? That is FREAKY!</font> </b><br />\n<br />\n<b>3. Nobody should trim cards. It\'s not the same card. </b><br />\n<br />\nAgreed. <br />\n<br />\n<b>4) If ironing out creases is successful, fine. </b><br />\n<br />\nHell no! <img src="forum/images/smilies/eek.gif" border="0" alt="" title="EEK!" class="inlineimg" /> Sometimes these creases or wrinkles can reappear many months or years down the line (when the card is sitting inside a PSA 8 case!)</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I had no idea that was being or could be done either! I am curious how hard it is to see/tell that this has been done to a card?<br />\nMy gut tells me, after a bit of dirt/staining has been purposely added to hide this restoration, it is ver hard?<br />\n<br />\n<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>Peter_Spaeth</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=1740196#post1740196" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">I have no idea about percentage, but with the number of people I know to be card doctors, and the number of years they have been doing it, and some sense of how many cards they work on, it adds up.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Great thread, Peter, but disheartening at the same time.<br />\n<br />\nI appreciate the education lesson, however.<br />\n<br />\nThanks for starting it. <img src="forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				<b>52 Topps cards. </b><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/144160280@N05/" target="_blank">https://www.flickr.com/photos/144160280@N05/</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\n<a href="http://www.net54baseball.com/album.php?albumid=922" target="_blank">http://www.net54baseball.com/album.php?albumid=922</a>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by irv; 01-21-2018 at <span class="time">04:59 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1740700" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1740700 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1740700_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">irv</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=617788">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=617788" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to irv</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=617788" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by irv</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1740700 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1740700 -' + '->';
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If the corners are rebuilt with modern paper, those will flouresce under a black light.  However, ones built using donor T206 cards would not, based on the article above.  Under a high power microscope, it might be easy as well.  But to the regular Joe buying cards, it\'s not really a thought I have when purchasing cards.  I just assume it hasn\'t been done and probably won\'t look for it.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Not to mention someone that knows what they are doing can recreate stock from 1909...its amazing.  How do you think maps/artifacts from 200-500 years ago are restored?  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pd[1740764] = '<!-' + '- post #1740764 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit1740764" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post1740764" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=1740764&amp;postcount=20" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount1740764" name="20"><strong>20</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post1740764"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				01-21-2018, 07:33 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=321541"><img src="image.php?u=321541&amp;dateline=1427571007"   alt="drcy\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_1740764">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=321541">drcy</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="drcy is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_1740764", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				David Ru.dd Cycl.eback\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Jul 2013</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 3,486\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_1740764">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_1740764">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>rainier2004</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=1740739#post1740739" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Not to mention someone that knows what they are doing can recreate stock from 1909...its amazing.  How do you think maps/artifacts from 200-500 years ago are restored?  This is standard in other collections, juts not ours...scary shit.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Such restoration can be identified.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1740764" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1740764 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1740764_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">drcy</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=321541">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=321541" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to drcy</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=321541" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by drcy</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1740764 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1740764 -' + '->';
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Blacklight, nope.  Loupe, nope.  Fiber weaves, nope.  Printing, yes but a lot of borders don\'t have printing.  Tell me how...same stock as used a hundred years ago.  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In part because the two parts don\'t seemly fuse together and, even if original paper stock is used, foreign substances have to be used to affix or integrate it to the card.  Cut a single sheet of raw paper or card stock, cut it in half and try and put it back together using any method you can think of.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>That\'s not necessarily true...and even if they do they would need to be identified.  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And as far as I know, most real conservators don\'t try to make a repair undetectable, just undetectable to most people giving the item a casual look. They also do some important stuff like deacidifying the paper, stabilizing fragile pieces and doing acceptable and reversible stuff to ensure the item has a good chance of lasting a lot longer. In some hobbies, like old posters, that\'s entirely acceptable, in others like ours, it\'s not generally accepted. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nDetecting some alterations isn\'t easy. At the International stamp expo in 2006, they had thousands of square feet of displays of all sorts of amazing stuff. The one I spent the most time with was an assortment of altered stamps displayed by the Philatelic foundation (One of the stamp equivalents of PSA/SGC but in many ways better than either) <br />\r\nI couldn\'t spot the alterations on nearly everything they displayed. 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David, of course, is right.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nAlso would like to note that I agreed with Glyn on something - it might be the first or second time ever, so it\'s worth mentioning.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nPeter - some of the missed alterations are unforgivable while I\'m sure some are accidental.  Others exist because, while the technology to detect the alteration exists, it is too expensive to be practical;i.e-we couldn\'t afford to pay the TPA to do such checks.  Numerous examples have been discussed here in the past, such as dryness of the item (water content).  There are also some very nifty alterations that can currently be done to 19th century items without detection - I wrote an unpublished paper about these and ran it by some of the 19th century cardboard collectors here and they were almost unanimous in agreement that I should keep it unpublished.  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pd[1741031] = '<!-' + '- post #1741031 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit1741031" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post1741031" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=1741031&amp;postcount=27" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount1741031" name="27"><strong>27</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post1741031"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				01-22-2018, 06:32 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=88099"><img src="image.php?u=88099&amp;dateline=1513093960"   alt="rainier2004\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_1741031">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=88099">rainier2004</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="rainier2004 is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_1741031", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nSteven\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: May 2011</div>\r\n					<div>Location: Spartan Country, MI</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 2,040\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_1741031">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_1741031">\r\n			\r\n			Alright, it sounds like David knows much more than myself but I do not think TPGs are using the equipment that he is referring to...maybe I\'m wrong, but I\'ve never seen anyone use more than a 80x loupe, black light and some computer technology.  So in that regard, with those tools, I will stand by my statement that good restorers can make it undetectable to TPGs...maybe not museum folk, but TPGs simply aren\'t museum folk.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1741031" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1741031 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1741031_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">rainier2004</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=88099">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=88099" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to rainier2004</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=88099" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by rainier2004</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1741031 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1741031 -' + '->';
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So in that regard, with those tools, I will stand by my statement that good restorers can make it undetectable to TPGs...maybe not museum folk, but TPGs simply aren\'t museum folk.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I agree, and that\'s kind of what I\'ve said throughout the thread.  However, black light, opacity (see through effect) and gloss examination are simple but effective methods for identifying alterations such as built up corners. 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I haven&#8217;t seriously collected cards since the early 1990s.  During my break from cards, I focused on autographs and memorabilia.  When I started collecting cards again last year, I started to buy graded cards not because I like them, but because I was looking for the security of them not been altered. This thread is extremely depressing to me. I really don&#8217;t care if the card is graded or not, as I just want a nice looking card.  I actually prefer raw cards.  I mainly buy graded cards for financial security in case somebody has to sell them in the future from my family. I don&#8217;t want them to get ripped off. 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I haven’t seriously collected cards since the early 1990s.  During my break from cards, I focused on autographs and memorabilia.  When I started collecting cards again last year, I started to buy graded cards not because I like them, but because I was looking for the security of them not been altered. This thread is extremely depressing to me. I really don’t care if the card is graded or not, as I just want a nice looking card.  I actually prefer raw cards, because that is how I collected as a youngster. I mainly buy graded cards for financial security in case somebody has to sell them in the future from my family. I don’t want them to get ripped off. If the market comes tumbling down, then I guess it was all for not!</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>My guess is it won\'t come tumbling down anytime soon. Chances are they will need to get then into the latest greatest slab though.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI feel way safer buying raw cards. 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Like Scott I have experimented with sending a bad card to the grading companies, has anybody else and would you share the results?<br />\r\n<br />\r\nHere are mine, I send the same counterfeit card to the big 3.<br />\r\nBeckett-Rejected on only attempt.<br />\r\nSGC-Rejected on all 3 attemps<br />\r\nPSA-Slabbed on all 5 attempts.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1741459" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1741459 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1741459_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">bnorth</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=307554">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=307554" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to bnorth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=307554" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by bnorth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1741459 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1741459 -' + '->';
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Chances are they will need to get then into the latest greatest slab though.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI feel way safer buying raw cards. With the Mexican guy with the fake cards in PSA slabs, the cracked and resealed PSA slabs, and the fact it is harder to actually see/inspect the card through the layer of plastic.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAnother twist to this card doctoring thread. Like Scott I have experimented with sending a bad card to the grading companies, has anybody else and would you share the results?<br />\r\n<br />\r\nHere are mine, I send the same counterfeit card to the big 3.<br />\r\nBeckett-Rejected on only attempt.<br />\r\nSGC-Rejected on all 3 attemps<br />\r\nPSA-Slabbed on all 5 attempts.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I hope it wasn\'t a Jordan RC.  <img src="forum/images/smilies/mad.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Mad" class="inlineimg" />\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				Four phrases I nave coined that sum up today\'s hobby:<br />\r\nNo consequences.<br />\r\nStuff trumps all.<br />\r\nThe flip is the commoodity.<br />\r\nAnimal Farm grading.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1741461" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1741461 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1741461_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Peter_Spaeth</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=43">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1741461 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1741461 -' + '->';
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Chances are they will need to get then into the latest greatest slab though.<br />\n<br />\nI feel way safer buying raw cards. With the Mexican guy with the fake cards in PSA slabs, the cracked and resealed PSA slabs, and the fact it is harder to actually see/inspect the card through the layer of plastic.<br />\n<br />\nAnother twist to this card doctoring thread. Like Scott I have experimented with sending a bad card to the grading companies, has anybody else and would you share the results?<br />\n<br />\nHere are mine, I send the same counterfeit card to the big 3.<br />\nBeckett-Rejected on only attempt.<br />\nSGC-Rejected on all 3 attemps<br />\nPSA-Slabbed on all 5 attempts.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Beckett and SGC are very good at grading pre-war and vintage. PSA, not so much, imo.  Most of that has to do with experience of the vintage graders....again, imo.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				<b>Leon Luckey<br />\r\nwww.luckeycards.com</b>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by Leon; 01-24-2018 at <span class="time">08:58 AM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1741468" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1741468 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1741468_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Leon</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=1">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=1" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Leon</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="http://www.luckeycards.com">Visit Leon\'s homepage!</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=1" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Leon</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1741468 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1741468 -' + '->';
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PSA, not so much, imo.  Most of that has to do with experience of the vintage graders....again, imo.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Many people report Beckett grades, or at least has graded, sheet cut cards.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				Four phrases I nave coined that sum up today\'s hobby:<br />\r\nNo consequences.<br />\r\nStuff trumps all.<br />\r\nThe flip is the commoodity.<br />\r\nAnimal Farm grading.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 01-24-2018 at <span class="time">09:03 AM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1741470" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1741470 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1741470_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Peter_Spaeth</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=43">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1741470 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1741470 -' + '->';
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I haven&#8217;t seriously collected cards since the early 1990s.  During my break from cards, I focused on autographs and memorabilia.  When I started collecting cards again last year, I started to buy graded cards not because I like them, but because I was looking for the security of them not been altered. This thread is extremely depressing to me. I really don&#8217;t care if the card is graded or not, as I just want a nice looking card.  I actually prefer raw cards, because that is how I collected as a youngster. I mainly buy graded cards for financial security in case somebody has to sell them in the future from my family. I don&#8217;t want them to get ripped off. If the market comes tumbling down, then I guess it was all for not!</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I am a firm believer that being knowledgeable and having one\'s eyes open makes for a superior collecting experience.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by drcy; 01-24-2018 at <span class="time">06:34 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1741671" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1741671 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1741671_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">drcy</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=321541">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=321541" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to drcy</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=321541" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by drcy</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1741671 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1741671 -' + '->';
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			There are numerous ways it is identified.  In part because the two parts don't seemly fuse together and, even if original paper stock is used, foreign substances have to be used to affix or integrate it to the card.  Cut a single sheet of raw paper or card stock, cut it in half and try and put it back together using any method you can think of.
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