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Unlike with trading cards, I don\'t believe PSA/DNA grades photos (Poor 1 through Mint 10), they just identify what type of photo it is.  An altered T206 Honus Wagner is still a T206 Honus Wagner.  Trimming and touching up of a card usually falls under grading, not identification.  A trimmed T206 Honus Wagner is still a T206 Honus Wagner, it\'s just that it should be <b>graded</b> (if graded) as Authentic or Poor.  PSA doesn\'t assign grades to photos.<br />\n<br />\nA modern ballpoint pen ink mark or pencil mark removal on the front of a 1973 Topps Mike Schmidt rookie card doesn\'t make it not a Mike Schmidt Rookie Card.  It\'s still a Mike Schmidt Rookie Card.  The ink and erasure mark only changes the condition grade.  PSA/DNA photo services don\'t assign a condition grade, they just tell you whether or not the card is or is not an authentic \'1973 Topps Mike Schmidt baseball card.\'  Clearly, I\'m speaking figuratively and mixing cards and photos to show my point.  Mixing my metaphors, so to speak.<br />\n<br />\nA topic worthy of discussion. Though if you expect PSA/DNA to examine photos for missing ink and paper, you\'d better expect their fees to rise accordingly.  There\'s no way PSA/DNA can determine or guarantee that no ink, paper or glue has ever been removed from a photo.  The combined minds of Svengali and Albert Einstein couldn\'t guarantee that.  If you\'re talking about noting obvious alterations (such as here, or if a photo is obviously trimmed or has modern writing on the back), that\'s a different issue-' + '- but, still, if you want those things added to their photo identification services, you should expect higher fees.  More time and work = higher charges.<br />\n<br />\nIn summary, I think all PSA/DNA does as far as photos go is tell you what kind of photo it is.  Judging grade, condition and alterations is not under the parameters of their services.  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Though if you expect PSA/DNA to examine photos for missing ink and paper, you\'d better expect their fees to rise accordingly.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>My thoughts are that most people who submit prints to PSA/DNA, do not have an adequate understanding of them.  Note - I said "most", not "all".  I do realize that some like PSA/DNA because they like getting things certified, either for themselves or for re-sale value (wow, that was a lot of disclaimer <img src="forum/images/smilies/frown.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Frown" class="inlineimg" />)<br />\r\n<br />\r\nGiven the above, I think that noting tampering (either by pressmen or otherwise) would be valuable to such collectors, and would help them avoid surprises when they receive an item that is more or less than what they thought it would be based on the certificate or slab.  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It appears pen marks have been removed from the back."<br />\nCollector: "Then why didn\'t you say in the first place say "it is a wirephoto and it is altered\' instead of only saying "it is a wirephoto\'? <br />\nPSA/DNA: "Because your first question was only \'Is it a wirephoto?\'  You didn\'t ask for our opinion about alterations until the second question. "<br />\nCollector: "Okay, I guess I understand that.  You can\'t answer a question before it\'s asked.  So, how much do I owe you for your services?"<br />\nPSA/DNA: "$45  $30 for telling you it is a wirephoto, and $15 for telling you it has been altered."<br />\nCollector: "But I only want to pay $30."<br />\nPSA/DNA: "Then you shouldn\'t have asked if it had been altered."<br />\n<br />\nAsking a paid expert (lawyer, authenticator, accountant) for more answers is like ordering extra toppings on a pizza.  The more extra toppings on your pizza the higher price for the pizza, and the more questions you expect answered from an expert the higher your charge.  If you\'re only willing to pay one-topping price, don\'t order a pizza with five extra toppings.  If you only want to pay your lawyer a one legal opinion rate, don\'t ask him for three legal opinions.  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It appears pen marks have been removed from the back."<br />\r\nCollector: "Then why didn\'t you say in the first place say "it is a wirephoto and it is altered\' instead of only saying "it is a wirephoto\'? <br />\r\nPSA/DNA: "Because your first question was only \'Is it a wirephoto?\'  You didn\'t ask for our opinion about alterations until the second question. "<br />\r\nCollector: "Okay, I guess I understand that.  You can\'t answer a question before it\'s asked.  So, how much do I owe you for your services?"<br />\r\nPSA/DNA: "$45  $30 for telling you it is a wirephoto, and $15 for telling you it has been altered."<br />\r\nCollector: "But I only want to pay $30."<br />\r\nPSA/DNA: "Then you shouldn\'t have asked if it had been altered."<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAsking a paid expert (lawyer, authenticator, accountant, physician) for more answers than spelled out in the original agreement is like ordering extra toppings on a pizza.  The more extra toppings on your pizza the higher price for the pizza, and the more questions you expect answered from an expert the higher your charge.  If you\'re only willing to pay one-topping price, don\'t order a pizza with five extra toppings.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Here\'s what the two voices in my head are saying:<br />\r\n<br />\r\nCollector: "What is this?"<br />\r\nPSA/DNA: "Type II"<br />\r\nCollector: "Anything else you can tell me?"<br />\r\nPSA/DNA: "send me $30"\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				<font size="2"><font color="Black">$co++ Forre$+ </font> </font>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1258856" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1258856 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1258856_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Runscott</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=860">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=860" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Runscott</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=860" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Runscott</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1258856 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1258856 -' + '->';
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(I\'m saying that under the assumption that the white marks that are left are white paint that was around whatever marks or framing was removed). As it is now, if the new owner decides to go ahead and complete the "clean-up" job, the photo will no longer match the image on the LOA <img src="forum/images/smilies/eek.gif" border="0" alt="" title="EEK!" class="inlineimg" />\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				<b><a href="http://stores.ebay.com/The-Cats-Pajamas-Comics" target="_blank">Ebay Store and Weekly Auctions</a></b><br />\r\n<b><a href="http://www.thecatspajamascollectibles.com/" target="_blank">Web Store with better selection and discounts</a></b><br />\r\nPolite corrections for unidentified and misidentified photos appreciated. 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(I\'m saying that under the assumption that the white marks that are left are white paint that was around whatever marks or framing was removed). As it is now, if the new owner decides to go ahead and complete the "clean-up" job, the photo will no longer match the image on the LOA <img src="forum/images/smilies/eek.gif" border="0" alt="" title="EEK!" class="inlineimg" /></div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I was hoping someone would take the bait, but Lance -not you <img src="forum/images/smilies/eek.gif" border="0" alt="" title="EEK!" class="inlineimg" /><br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe buyers of slabbed photos do so for what PSA/DNA is telling them.  A lot of the rest of it is hidden under the plastic.  Many sellers rely on the PSA/DNA slab to \'say it all\' - it basically relieves them of the responsibility that you have described.   Right here on the forum we see new collectors asking questions about slabs as if that\'s the main thing they need to understand, while others show little or zero knowledge about simple things like Kodak watermarks on the back of the photos.  Too much focus on what PSA/DNA is going to do with the photo.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nPDA/DNA is effectively disguising photos as soon as they put them in an official slab with their designation in a nice little slip...like cards.  In fact, I bet many collectors buy them this way because it allows them to be collected the same way you would a slabbed card, and because the slabs with their identical PSA/DNA inserts, add uniformity to an otherwise very creative-looking collection (insert my oft-used disclaimer here).<br />\r\n<br />\r\nBut, it\'s a system that is working for those who use it, much like autograph authentication and slabbing of cards, so it\'s really up to those collectors to speak up if they have concerns, and they don\'t seem to.  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A lot of the rest of it is hidden under the plastic.  Many sellers rely on the PSA/DNA slab to \'say it all\' - it basically relieves them of the responsibility that you have described.   Right here on the forum we see new collectors asking questions about slabs as if that\'s the main thing they need to understand, while others show little or zero knowledge about simple things like Kodak watermarks on the back of the photos.  Too much focus on what PSA/DNA is going to do with the photo.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nPDA/DNA is effectively disguising photos as soon as they put them in an official slab with their designation in a nice little slip...like cards.  In fact, I bet many collectors buy them this way because it allows them to be collected the same way you would a slabbed card, and because the slabs with their identical PSA/DNA inserts, add uniformity to an otherwise very creative-looking collection (insert my oft-used disclaimer here).<br />\r\n<br />\r\nBut, it\'s a system that is working for those who use it, much like autograph authentication and slabbing of cards, so it\'s really up to those collectors to speak up if they have concerns, and they don\'t seem to.  So all I\'m doing here is discussing, because the subject is interesting and involves my hobby.  Hope I haven\'t offended anyone, and I realize that my thoughts in this area will have no impact whatsoever, nor should they.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Still not sure what the "bait" or the trap was, but at the risk of nibbling on it some more, here\'s some more thoughts (all intellectual discussion, no hurt feelings felt or intended here)...<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI don\'t think that PSA/DNA, Henry, Rhys, David, you, me, or anyone else noting <u>on a flip or LOA</u> any additions or removals of crop marks will do much to help to educate the buyers/sellers as to what they should be looking for. At least, not the buyers/sellers who defer to PSA for all of their thinking. Adding more info to the flip isn\'t going to cure buyers or sellers of their own laziness in educating themselves or doing their due diligence in describing (sellers) or scrutinizing (buyers) the photo itself. The collectors who check their brains at the door once they see that blue flip are not going to be deterred (or educated) by an extra line or two of text. They\'ll see "Shoeless Joe" and a big Roman Numeral I in the corner, and feel they have all the information they need. The ones who see past the flip and spend their time looking at the photo within will see the big, white swathes of paint, and decide whether/how much that editorial fabrication detracts from the overall appeal of the photo for them, same as they would if PSA/DNA hadn\'t chimed in with their opinion in the first place.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nMaybe PSA could add another "tier" to their LOA service that would include things like notes about alterations and possible removal/alteration of alterations, but I think that whatever is the cheapest service that would get a Roman Numeral and company logo on the photo or its holder would continue to be the most popular. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nAlso, I think that once you start noting anything related to condition of photos on an LOA or flip, that opens the barn door wide for a paragraph (or several) of information that, in the long run, means very little to most photo collectors (as in, they don\'t care, not that they don\'t understand it). Who\'s to say whether markings were added or removed in the period vs. in modern times? In a case like this, in the period seems less likely, but you\'d have to note any/all alterations just in case. Every mark on the back. Every sticker applied. Every stamp. Every wax pencil marking. Every bit of paint. Every spot that looked like it once had wax pencil or paint or a sticker or a marking. Every nick, fold, tear, crop, dog-ear, crazing of the emulsion, paper added, paper lost, on and on and on. None of which affects whether the photo is original to the period, and most of which can be seen in a good scan (with the bits that can\'t be seen well being the seller\'s responsibility to describe, since they\'re the one who has it in hand). <br />\r\n[I\'ll also add that, in retrospect, I think I went off on a tangent with the whole "condition note" paragraph, but it took a while to type, so I\'ll leave it]<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>glchen</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=1258902#post1258902" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">The thing is most photos authenticated by PSA are not slabbed.  PSA only slabs photos that are close to 8x10 in size.  If the photos are smaller or larger than this size, they are not slabbed.   You just the exact same photo you sent in, but with a sticker on the back matching it to the LOA.  So, just ballparking it, I would say that less than 10% of photos from PSA are slabbed, so most photos are never hidden in plastic.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>That might have been the case early on, but if you look at the more recent submissions (by picking a cert number and trolling up or down on PSA\'s website), I think you\'ll see that the current trend is much higher than 10% being in holders (at a quick glance, I would say somewhere around 70% go in slabs these days). Start somewhere around 1P04750 and work your way backwards if you want to see what I\'m referring to.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				<b><a href="http://stores.ebay.com/The-Cats-Pajamas-Comics" target="_blank">Ebay Store and Weekly Auctions</a></b><br />\r\n<b><a href="http://www.thecatspajamascollectibles.com/" target="_blank">Web Store with better selection and discounts</a></b><br />\r\nPolite corrections for unidentified and misidentified photos appreciated. 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To me, it looks like they\'re in Oscar Meyer hot dog packaging.  And Becket\'s slabs aren\'t much better-' + '- the proverbial plastic coffin.  That\'s just my personal taste, and if someone likes slabbed photos that\'s fine.  I\'m merely voicing what I like, not saying what is right or wrong.  <br />\n<br />\nI\'ve always been strongly against PSA condition grading photos, as many collectors would then trim photos to attain their desired grade.  You can count on it. There\'s nothing wrong with worn edges and dinged corners on a photo-' + '- I want number grade-centric card collectors to leave them alone.  Trimming a photo ruins it in my opinion.  A 1910 Ty Cobb news photo should have worn corners and a small wrinkle or two.  That\'s how old photos are.  They\'re old and old things have wear.  To me, trimming a slightly rough edge on the 1910 Cobb photo is like removing the ball and clete marks from a game used Babe Ruth bat.  The bat is supposed to show use. And I can promise you that if PSA started condition grading photos, out the paper cutter will come. <br />\n<br />\nI find many trading card rules to be dubious as applied to cards, and even more so when applied elsewhere.  Believe it or not, baseball card collectors are a strange breed with strange little rules for their card collecting fantasy world. They do things such as have never ending or resolved chat board arguments over what constitutes a rookie card or whether or not a trade card counts as a baseball card. <br />\n<br />\nDuly note, I started off as a card collector and am a fan of cards.  I have nothing against baseball cards or the collecting of them.  I just see them as different than photos.  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I mean just look what those registry blood suckers did to those poor innocent virginal 1966 Sporting News magazines once they found out PSA would grade the Nolan Ryan pictures inside. <br />\n<br />\n<img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Y32nBaee2kw/SmxUtbomqwI/AAAAAAAAAbc/6yLKIhpdono/s400/vampires-nosferatu%5B1%5D.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />\nNosferatu awaiting the day PSA/DNA starts grading photos.  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Each photo is a living breathing piece of art and it should be treated that way.  Take a game used bat for example.  They were all issued at the same size and weight, but no two are exactly alike.  After being used in games some are broken, some are cracked, some were taped and some were barely used.  Its the SAME THING with a press photograph and the use is what we like.  Some were trimmed, some were traced for engraving, some were spliced, some were heavily painted and turned more into artwork and some were just marked with a few potential sizes for stories.  So when a photo is cleaned it is no different than when a bat is wiped off with warm water.  Should that be disclosed?  I don\'t think it really needs to be if all you did is wipe of a spot of dirt or dust from being in an attic for 100 years.  But I think many dealers in game used bats would explain in their rules (as we do) that they sometimes clean their bats with warm water.  If in the process of cleaning the bat though, some chemicals are used which leave a mark or any restoration of the material itself takes place at all then yes, it needs to be disclosed.  These things might have happened in the past however and in those situations it is often impossible to tell.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nWe grade our photos, and as far as I know we are the only ones who do it.  We don\'t take editorial markings (or their removal) or cropping of the image into account in the grade unless it affects the condition of the photograph itself.  We do however mention in our descriptions if there are editorial markings that were removed if we can detect it (or tracing that is still present) or if an item has a border trimmed off etc.  We do it on a different scale than baseball cards and it is NOT to create a market for photo grading.  We do it simply because you can not tell everything from a scan.  We have images that might look perfect to the naked eye but when examined up close there might be a few creases that are visible only when tilted to the light and that need to be disclosed.  It is simply another way to convey what the buyer is getting when a scan and description combined isn\'t even enough.  I think it works and the evidence I have for this is that in (5) Auctions we have run (through RMY) we have not had one single complaint about condition and have received hundreds of e mails about customers finding the photos to be better in person and that is our goal.  Extra information is never a bad thing.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nSO, to sum up I feel that photo grading works.  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An ExMt 1910 photo may sell the name as a Nrmt-Mt example, because photography collectors aren\'t so concerned with microscopic wrinkles or barely seen nicks in the corner.  It\'s baseball card collectors who worry about that.<br />\n<br />\nThe reason behind this is because there may be 20,000 1993 SP Derek Jeters or 1968 Topps Nolan Ryans and the only thing that separates them is the condition or very minor print variations.  However, with a particular 1925 Babe Ruth photo, there may be only five or even one in existence.  Photography collectors are concerned about condition and presentation, but don\'t worry about silly minor stuff like a minor ding to the corner or a little wrinkle on the edge.  If you see a wonderful 1908 Ty Cobb photo, it may be the last time you see it for sale.  You don\'t fret over a corner bump and minor wrinkles.  A minor pencil mark on the back of a beautiful Abe Lincoln cabinet card doesn\'t prevent a photography collector from buying it.  <br />\n<br />\nThis also explains why it\'s baseball collectors and sellers who slice a half a millimeter off the left side to try and get a better grade.  A serious photograph collector wouldn\'t do that because a) a very slightly rough left edge doesn\'t matter aesthetically and b) sharpening the edge won\'t raise the resale vale because other photograph collectors won\'t care either.<br />\n<br />\nSo condition does matter with photographs and they can be assigned a grade Poor to Mint.  But the Gem Mint 10, Nrmt-Mt 8.5, Beckett Mint 9.5 corners and 8.5 gloss, Set Registry average grade 9.32145612115666 nonsense is the baseball card hobby not the photography hobby.  <br />\n<br />\nYou have to understand one thing: As far as condition goes, photography collectors are sane and graded baseball card collectors are insane.  PSA label number collectors need an intervention and some form of psychiatric medication.  Because sane people don\'t spend hours of their free time with a microscope searching pieces of cardboard for wrinkles and edge dings invisible to the naked eye.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by drcy; 03-27-2014 at <span class="time">02:17 AM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1259077" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1259077 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1259077_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">drcy</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=321541">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=321541" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to drcy</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=321541" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by drcy</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1259077 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1259077 -' + '->';
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I\'ve always been proficient and mixing and matching serious thoughts with offbeat humor.  It\'s just some people don\'t know where I\'m being serious and where I\'m joking, in particular since I usually avoid using emoticons.  <br />\n<br />\nFor example, I don\'t think set registry members are literally vampires.  That was a tongue in cheek part.<br />\n<br />\nThe need for some collectors to be put on psychiatric medicine?  Well, we all know that\'s true.  Let\'s call that one a joke with an element of truth.<br />\n<br />\nThat baseball card rules are for baseball cards and don\'t always apply to other forms of memorabilia and art?  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One of my concerns 10+ years ago, when we saw clearly-trimmed photos entering the market, and then appearing in plastic slabs, was that the modern trimming would be encouraged by card-like collector preferences.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nThis has continued to some extent (check some of the photos that supposedly came straight from archives, but have razor-sharp corners and vintage writing clearly half-gone from their backs, while most of the less valuable photos retain their vintage rough edges) but for the most part we have been lucky in that respect.  Thanks, collectors, for not encouraging that practice.  Also, I\'m not pointing fingers with my prior parenthesized comment - I think the trimming is to make the photos more aesthetically-pleasing, which perhaps it does, and it\'s obvious, so I doubt there\'s any intended deception.  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pd[1259194] = '<!-' + '- post #1259194 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit1259194" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post1259194" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=1259194&amp;postcount=15" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount1259194" name="15"><strong>15</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post1259194"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				03-27-2014, 11:06 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=860"><img src="image.php?u=860&amp;dateline=1519433338"   alt="Runscott\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_1259194">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=860">Runscott</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="Runscott is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_1259194", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nBelltown Vintage\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: May 2009</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 10,660\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_1259194">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_1259194">\r\n			\r\n			Lance, I wasn\'t asking for the level of detail from PSA/DNA that you described, but those were certainly all things that were going through my mind as possibilities. Also, I do realize that it isn\'t economically feasible, just as it isn\'t economically feasible to put the required effort into authenticating most autographs.  I think I stated that in a previous post.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nBut your post was very interesting - thanks.  Also, thanks for clarifying the change in slabbed-photo % - I wasn\'t going to argue with about it, as I don\'t collect slabbed photos.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nIt\'s good to get the philosophical photo guys discussing this sort of stuff - looking forward to Ben getting back from his wanderings.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				<font size="2"><font color="Black">$co++ Forre$+ </font> </font>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1259194" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1259194 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1259194_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Runscott</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=860">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=860" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Runscott</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=860" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Runscott</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1259194 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1259194 -' + '->';
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They are paper thin items that were well handled over the years, editors and photographers commonly wrote notes on and rubber stamped the backs, and almost all have at least slightly rough edges here and there, a wrinkle or two, a dinged corner.  This explains why collectors shouldn\'t be unduly concerned with condition.  <br />\n<br />\nAs with baseball cards, tobacco signs, movie lobby cards et al, a heavy crease or unsightly wrinkling through the image, stains, missing corners, water damage, missing paper or spots in the image and other such thing that effect eye appeal do effect financial value.  Condition is part of the value of photos.  However, a slightly dinged corner, or small surface wrinkle on the white border will have little to no effect on value. 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Same with a Babe Ruth signed photo.  Same with a Charles Conlon where Conlon wrote a caption on the back and stamped the date.<br />\n<br />\nA card collector at the Louvre:<br />\n"How can the Mona Lisa grade an ExMt?  It\'s got paint all over the front. And someone scribbled in the corner."<br />\n"Uh, that scribbling is Da Vinci\'s signature."<br />\n"Still, according to my Beckett Baseball Card Monthly, it can\'t grade higher than VgEx with two dinged corners.  With two dinged corners, I\'ll give you $25 for it, but only if that includes shipping.  Is there a refractor version?  I\'d pay $35 for that."<br />\n"Sir, we must please ask that you leave the museum.  And, even better, the country."<br />\n"Okay, fine.  Is Denny\'s anywhere around here?"<br />\n<br />\nA PSA card collector after a date:<br />\n"Oh man, I think she\'s the one.  Her gloss appears original and her corners untouched."<br />\n"Don\'t fool yourself.  Rumor around town is she\'s a double print and had gum stains removed."\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by drcy; 03-26-2014 at <span class="time">08:39 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1258970" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1258970 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1258970_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">drcy</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=321541">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=321541" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to drcy</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=321541" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by drcy</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1258970 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1258970 -' + '->';
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Same with a Babe Ruth signed photo.  Same with a Charles Conlon where Conlon wrote a caption on the back and stamped the date.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nA card collector at the Louvre:<br />\r\n"How can the Mona Lisa grade an ExMt?  It\'s got paint all over the front. And someone scribbled in the corner."<br />\r\n"Uh, that scribbling is Da Vinci\'s signature."<br />\r\n"Still, according to my Beckett Baseball Card Monthly, it can\'t grade higher than VgEx with two dinged corners.  With two dinged corners, I\'ll give you $25 for it, but only if that includes shipping.  Is there a refractor version?  I\'d pay $35 for that."<br />\r\n"Sir, we must please ask that you leave the museum.  And, even better, the country."<br />\r\n"Okay, fine.  Is Denny\'s anywhere around here?"<br />\r\n<br />\r\nA PSA card collector after a date:<br />\r\n"Oh man, I think she\'s the one.  Her gloss appears original and her corners untouched."<br />\r\n"Don\'t fool yourself.  Rumor around town is she\'s a double print and had gum stains removed."</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>David, my comments were related to the fact that PSA/DNA is slabbing both photos and cards.  To my knowledge, they are not slabbing Picassos.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				<font size="2"><font color="Black">$co++ Forre$+ </font> </font>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1258985" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1258985 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1258985_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Runscott</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=860">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=860" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Runscott</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=860" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Runscott</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1258985 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1258985 -' + '->';
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I like the image area to be clean.  Marks and notes on the white border areas are fine.  But that\'s just my taste, and I know some like editorial marking.  To me it\'s all about the appearance of the image and overall photo, which is judged photo by photo.  In once case, editorial marks on the image may be distracting and ugly to me, while in another case it may be minor and not bother me.  <br />\n<br />\nAs has already been said, notes, marks, crop lines, stamps and tags on the <b>back</b> of a news photo are good.  You identify and date photos in part by that info.  Charles Conlon\'s handwritten notes and stamp on back will add to the value of the photo, and, of course, help you identify it as an original Conlon photo.  But I like the front images to be clean.  Again, that\'s my personal taste.  If a collector finds crop marks and other editorial marks in the image interesting and feels they adds to the photo as a historical artifact that is fine.  I\'m just saying what I like, not what others should like or not like.  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I like the image area to be clean.  Marks and notes on the white border areas are fine.  But that\'s just my taste, and I know some like editorial marking.  To me it\'s all about the appearance of the image and overall photo, which is judged photo by photo.  In once case, editorial marks on the image may be distracting and ugly to me, while in another case it may be minor and not bother me.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nAs has already been said, notes, marks, crop lines, stamps and tags on the <b>back</b> of a news photo are good.  You identify and date photos in part by that info.  Charles Conlon\'s handwritten notes and stamp on back will add to the value of the photo, and, of course, help you identify it as an original Conlon photo.  But I like the front images to be clean.  Again, that\'s my personal taste.  If a collector finds crop marks and other editorial marks in the image interesting and feels they adds to the photo as a historical artifact that is fine.  I\'m just saying what I like, not what others should like or not like.  As is commonly said, art is in the eye of the beholder.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I agree 100%. To my mind, editorial markings are alterations to a photograph, and I have no qualms with undoing an alteration that someone else (besides the photographer) made if doing so enhances the aesthetics of the piece for me. If I want to see how the editor wanted the photo to look in print, I\'ll hunt down the printed version of the photo. Otherwise, things like crop marks and faces X\'d out on the front of a photo feel like they\'re putting blinders on me and not letting me see the whole scene. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI also peel price stickers off of the bottom of things I buy at the store, and remove labels from my electronics touting what operating system they use or that they are "Energy Star" compliant, so admittedly, there may be a bit of OCD there... <img src="forum/images/smilies/redface.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Embarrassment" class="inlineimg" /><br />\r\n<br />\r\nAnd I don\'t remove the crop marks from EVERY photo I handle either, so I may be guilty of some partial hypocrisy as well. There\'s just some that I don\'t care to look at the image either way, and don\'t feel like spending the time to clean it up <img src="forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Stick Out Tongue" class="inlineimg" />\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				<b><a href="http://stores.ebay.com/The-Cats-Pajamas-Comics" target="_blank">Ebay Store and Weekly Auctions</a></b><br />\r\n<b><a href="http://www.thecatspajamascollectibles.com/" target="_blank">Web Store with better selection and discounts</a></b><br />\r\nPolite corrections for unidentified and misidentified photos appreciated. 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			Lance, I wasn't asking for the level of detail from PSA/DNA that you described, but those were certainly all things that were going through my mind as possibilities. Also, I do realize that it isn't economically feasible, just as it isn't economically feasible to put the required effort into authenticating most autographs.  I think I stated that in a previous post.<br />
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