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Katahdin region<b>**</b>. This "mile-high" mountain (5267 feet) is the 1st spot in the U.S. which the<br />\r\n rising sun\'s rays strike early in the morning. Also, it marks the northernmost point of the Appalachian Trail. Magnificent scenery and a beautiful start to the early<br />\r\nAutumn foliage colors.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nOK, here we go......<br />\r\nPIEDMONT was the Flagship brand of the American Tobacco Co (ATC). American Lithographic (ALC) would start their T206 press runs with PIEDMONT cards. First<br />\r\n proof of this is the MAGIE error card whose back is only PIEDMONT 150. The 2nd proof of this: the Joe DOYLE N.Y. Nat\'l card. ALC began printing their  350 Series<br />\r\nT206 cards circa late 1909. This Joe DOYLE error card was printed only with the <b>PIEDMONT 350</b> back.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nSome guys on this forum claim that the El Principe de Gales (EPDG) print run preceded the PIEDMONT 350 print run. Well guys consider this_if the  EPDG  print run<br />\r\npreceded the PIEDMONT 350 print run, this Joe Doyle error card would then exist only with EPDG backs. <b>DID NOT HAPPEN !</b><br />\r\nFinally the PIEDMONT cards were printed in greater quantities than any of the other T206 brands. Approx. 53% of the total T206 population are PIEDMONT cards.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe Elite 11 subjects are originally 150 Series subjects. When ALC started printing their 350 Series cards (circa late 1909), ALC still had many pre-printed sheets<br />\r\n of 150 Series subjects left over in stock, so they printed PIEDMONT 350, and also the new complement of 350 series backs (EPDG, OLD MILL, SOVEREIGN 350 &amp;<br />\r\nSWEET CAP 350). The Elite 11 guys in the 350 series press runs were printed only with PIEDMONT 350 &amp; EPDG backs. Furthermore, these 2 backs on the Elite 11<br />\r\n are quite rare. The following info may explain why they were short-printed......<br />\r\n<br />\r\nDahlen (Boston)....joined Brooklyn, Oct 27, 1909<br />\r\n<br />\r\nEwing..................traded to Phillies, Jan 20, 1910<br />\r\n<br />\r\nGanley.................ML career ended, Sept 27, 1909<br />\r\n<br />\r\nTom Jones............traded to Detroit, Aug 20, 1909<br />\r\n<br />\r\nKarger.................traded to Boston AL. Jul 26, 1909<br />\r\n<br />\r\nLindaman.............released from Boston NL,  Jul 26, 1909<br />\r\n<br />\r\nLundgren..............ML career ended, Apr 23, 1909<br />\r\n<br />\r\nSchaefer...............traded to Washington, Aug 13, 1909<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAl Shaw................ML career ends 1909<br />\r\n<br />\r\nSpencer................played only 28 games with Boston AL in 1909<br />\r\n<br />\r\nand,<br />\r\n<br />\r\nMullin...................was an outstanding pitcher with Detroit....so ? ?<br />\r\n<br />\r\nSchulte (front).......Until I see an EPDG back on this card, I do not consider it as part of the Elite 11 group. <br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\nStay tuned for my info regarding EPDG backs vs SOVEREIGN 350 No-Prints.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAnd my research regarding the mutual-exclusivity  between <b>460-only</b> series PIEDMONT 460, Factory #42 cards and EPDG cards. I\'ll post the list in my next post.<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<b>** Note</b> pictures of the Katahdin region.<br />\r\n<a href="https://www.pinterest.com/swadesign/mt-katahdin-maine/" target="_blank">https://www.pinterest.com/swadesign/mt-katahdin-maine/</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<b><font color="blue">TED Z</font></b><br />\r\n.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1708023" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1708023 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1708023_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">tedzan</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=177">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=177" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by tedzan</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1708023 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1708023 -' + '->';
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I was very careful to say all I have is a theory.  I was just asking in that way because in the other thread you said you had proof that refuted my theory.  If there was proof I just wanted to know about it.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nMy theory is just that many of the Elite 11 guys clearly were printed for the entire EPDG print run (because most are no more rare than any other EPDG from the 150-350 series).  On the other hand, the Piedmont 350s are clearly short-printed and had to have been pulled early.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nIn other words, it looks to me like when they pulled Tom Jones from production of further Piedmont 350 sheets, they didn\'t pull him from any EPDG sheets.  And the most likely reason for that would be that EPDGs were already printed at that point.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nBut again I was just asking for clarification because I want to learn as much as I can about the set.  It doesn\'t really seem like either part of your theory is relevant though.  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That\'s laughable. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nHey, when I presented my " PIEDMONT first " theory back in 2006, quite a number of Net54 T206er\'s thought it was  logical.<br />\r\nBased on what we know of American Litho\'s printing practices, and the design of the various series of the T206\'s.<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<b><font color="BLUE">TED Z</font></b><br />\r\n.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div><br />\r\nTed,<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe plate scratches weren\'t even brought up in this discussion. It\'s interesting<br />\r\nthat you find them "laughable" since you probably haven\'t done any research <br />\r\non them and it\'s likely you have ignored the threads so I will post a<br />\r\nbrief demonstration of how they could be significant.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nYou claim that they are a few random scratches but there are actually over<br />\r\n250 different confirmed scratches and they are not random. The same exact<br />\r\nscratches appear several different times on the same subjects.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nHere are three Seymour\'s that I own with the same exact scratch in the same place.<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<a href="http://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=290157&amp;d=1507386639"  title="Name:  Seymour Group Back.jpg\r\nViews: 100\r\nSize:  81.6 KB">Seymour Group Back.jpg</a><br />\r\n<a href="http://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=290158&amp;d=1507386678"  title="Name:  Seymour Group.jpg\r\nViews: 100\r\nSize:  77.0 KB">Seymour Group.jpg</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\nThere were three Seymour\'s with this scratch on ebay one of them sold<br />\r\nbut here are links to the other two.<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206-Cy-Seymour-Batting-PSA-2-5-GOOD-NY-Giants-25992458-/282571869425?hash=item41ca988cf1:g:nRQAAOSw44BYkAOQ" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...QAAOSw44BYkAOQ</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\n<a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206-CY-SEYMOUR-Batting-New-York-Giants-Piedmont-12R-/401406816676?hash=item5d75b5f1a4:g:iz4AAOSwnGJWSo7F" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...4AAOSwnGJWSo7F</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\nI have been in the ceramic tile installation business for over 40 years.<br />\r\nI learned the trade from my father and one of the things he taught me<br />\r\nwas drawing a line through the backs of the tiles to keep them in order<br />\r\nfor certain situations. For instance if you have a horizontal row of tiles<br />\r\nending at an angled ceiling the best way to get a nice  cut<br />\r\nso they all line up is to take the measurement on the two ends of that<br />\r\nrow of tiles line them up and draw your cut line with a straight edge. When you<br />\r\ndo that you can end up with similar cuts so he taught me what to do to keep <br />\r\nfrom getting them mixed up when you\'re installing them on the wall.<br />\r\nHe showed me that if you turn them over and draw an angled line through<br />\r\nall of them and mark the ends with a slash mark this way if you get them mixed up <br />\r\nall you have to do is turn them over and match the lines up on the backs.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThat is basically what we\'re trying to accomplish with the plate scratches.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI did a quick small sample with a group of cards.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI lined them up scanned them and printed it out.<br />\r\n<a href="http://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=290164&amp;d=1507388292"  title="Name:  img469.jpg\r\nViews: 98\r\nSize:  76.3 KB">img469.jpg</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\ndrew an angled line through the back.<br />\r\n<a href="http://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=290165&amp;d=1507388399"  title="Name:  img470.jpg\r\nViews: 101\r\nSize:  85.7 KB">img470.jpg</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\nthen I cut them into individual "cards"<br />\r\n<a href="http://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=290166&amp;d=1507388537"  title="Name:  img471.jpg\r\nViews: 99\r\nSize:  78.0 KB">img471.jpg</a><br />\r\n<a href="http://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=290173&amp;d=1507390440"  title="Name:  img478.jpg\r\nViews: 100\r\nSize:  84.1 KB">img478.jpg</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\nThis next part you\'re going to have to take my word for but I mixed them all up and lined them up using only the marks on the backs and scanned them.<br />\r\n<a href="http://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=290167&amp;d=1507388712"  title="Name:  img472.jpg\r\nViews: 100\r\nSize:  81.0 KB">img472.jpg</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\nSo maybe you find the plate scratches laughable but I find them interesting<br />\r\nand a way to possibly find the layouts and size of a few of the T206 sheets.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- attachments -' + '->\r\n			<div style="padding:6px">\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / attachments -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1708160" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1708160 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1708160_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Pat R</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=178325">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=178325" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Pat R</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=178325" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Pat R</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1708160 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1708160 -' + '->';
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It\'s interesting<br />\r\nthat you find them "laughable" since you probably haven\'t done any research <br />\r\non them and it\'s likely you have ignored the threads so I will post a<br />\r\nbrief demonstration of how they could be significant.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Pat<br />\r\n<br />\r\n1st....That "laughable" comment was addressed to Luke......not you.<br />\r\n<br />\r\n2nd....You are absolutely wrong, for I have read every one of your threads regarding the work you have done these past years on the plate scratches.<br />\r\nAnd, I respect and admire the time and effort you have devoted to this project.<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>Pat R</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=1708160#post1708160" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">So maybe you find the plate scratches laughable but I find them interesting<br />\r\nand a way to possibly find the layouts and size of a few of the T206 sheets.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>The only disagreement that I have with your analysis is that your layout consists of 17 cards horizontally across a sheet.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThis is inconsistent with what we know about  American Lithographic\'s  printing machinery for this type of job, and the standard size of cardboard sheets used in the 1909-1919 era.<br />\r\nA 19-inch track printing press....19-inch wide by 25-inch long sheets. I\'ve researched this years ago. But don\'t take my word for these facts. Steve Birmingham has confirmed this.<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\nIncidentally, I have done some ceramic tile work in my house and I fully appreciate what you are telling me about your trade.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nJust to tell you where I\'m coming from. For 30 years I was an Electronics design engineer at Bell Labs. My designs required lengthy statistical survey analysis prior to putting them<br />\r\n in operation. Sometimes I get "carried away" with something quite complex as the T206\'s can be. 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The place I was at had a press that couldn\'t do anything larger than 81/2 x11. And a few times did smaller jobs. <br />\r\nThere was also a 24", and 2 35s, and eventually a two color 35. <br />\r\nAll the big presses could run smaller sheets, but we tried not to since it wasted a lot of paper.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nBy the numbers, there are some groups that divide nicely with 12, And others that fit 17 better. <br />\r\nThe big group Pat has found I believe repeats after 17, leading me to think that one layout was perhaps as wide as 34. <br />\r\nIf any group was going to be done on a large sheet it would have been Piedmont. <br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\n19x 25 is/was a standard paper size, but there were others. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nSteve B\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1708368" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1708368 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1708368_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">steve B</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=4257">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=4257" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to steve B</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=4257" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by steve B</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1708368 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1708368 -' + '->';
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American Lithographic (ALC) would start their T206 press runs with PIEDMONT cards. First<br />\r\n proof of this is the MAGIE error card whose back is only PIEDMONT 150. The 2nd proof of this: the Joe DOYLE N.Y. Nat\'l card. ALC began printing their  350 Series<br />\r\nT206 cards circa late 1909. This Joe DOYLE error card was printed only with the <b>PIEDMONT 350</b> back.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nSome guys on this forum claim that the El Principe de Gales (EPDG) print run preceded the PIEDMONT 350 print run. Well guys consider this_if the  EPDG  print run<br />\r\npreceded the PIEDMONT 350 print run, this Joe Doyle error card would then exist only with EPDG backs. <b>DID NOT HAPPEN !</b><br />\r\nFinally the PIEDMONT cards were printed in greater quantities than any of the other T206 brands. Approx. 53% of the total T206 population are PIEDMONT cards.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe Elite 11 subjects are originally 150 Series subjects. When ALC started printing their 350 Series cards (circa late 1909), ALC still had many pre-printed sheets<br />\r\n of 150 Series subjects left over in stock, so they printed PIEDMONT 350, and also the new complement of 350 series backs (EPDG, OLD MILL, SOVEREIGN 350 &amp;<br />\r\nSWEET CAP 350). The Elite 11 guys in the 350 series press runs were printed only with PIEDMONT 350 &amp; EPDG backs.<br />\r\n<b><font color="blue">TED Z</font></b><br />\r\n.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>You actually provide proof in what you wrote above.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI can agree that these 11 subjects were printed from sheets of fronts leftover from 150 production. There wouldn\'t have been a lot of them compared to a regular press run.*<br />\r\nsome subjects would have been carried over to the 350 series. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nThat these were printed only on EPDG and Piedmont means that they were printed first. They probably wouldn\'t have waited until they were well into P350 production to use up those leftover sheets. It also points pretty strongly at simultaneous production. (Obviously one would have been "first" even if only by a few hours.)<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThat also means the Doyle wasn\'t done until at least right after the leftovers, so after EPDG production began. The Doyle was most likely fixed by stoning off the incorrect part, and the partial remnants of letters point to that. That\'s a very quick repair, and if they found it quickly I\'m not surprised it only found its way onto one back. That could have happened at any time during the 350 runs. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nIf Scot Readers possible production numbers are right, and I haven\'t found any reason to doubt them, Piedmont production would have been almost constant. Other brands almost certainly would have been produced alongside them (SC may have been nearly constant production as well. )<br />\r\n<br />\r\n-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThings I\'m less confident in follow<br />\r\n<br />\r\n*The portion used for EPDG may have been enough for one shipments worth, and probably was considering the populations. (flawed as they are, but it\'s all we have to go on for numbers unless one of the big surveys was broken down that finely)  That the Piedmonts for these 11 are even less common seems to indicate a quantity of leftovers were set aside for EPDGs which would have been a small press run, and the remainder of the leftovers went to begin Piedmont 350 production. That could have been slightly after EPDG started, slightly before, or on the same day. <br />\r\n<br />\r\n-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-' + '-<br />\r\n<br />\r\nMore concrete, but less on topic. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe scratches are anything but random. Pats tile example is an interesting one. For stamps, it\'s called plating, where a collector will try to reassemble a plate by cataloging any known faults and differences along with where they\'re located on a sheet. Despite being easier - Known sheet size, and usually available blocks and less commonly a full or nearly full sheet. 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