My 52 mantle cert number used in counterfeit

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Even if you don't show the cert number, it's in PSA's database to pull from. But yes, recalling both cards is how PSA usually determines the fake.

Every once in a while, PSA deems them both authentic and "accurately" graded, and puts them both in new slabs. However, I think the cards I'm recalling they claimed were submitted at the same in the same order, and were accidentally printed with duplicate cert numbers. Not sure how true that can be; just seems like their QC stages would notice two high value cards with the same cert number in the same order, but they've whiffed on plenty of obvious things in the past.

The following happened to a guy I helped a few years back.

He won a Ryan PSA 9 in a Beckett/Goodwin auction. I forget how exactly, but when he consigned it later, it was discovered that the identical cert was associated with another (legit) Ryan 9 graded perhaps a decade before. His obviously was a Mexican fake/overgrade, and indeed other cards had been pulled from the same auction.

After much back and forth with Beckett and PSA, it was agreed that Beckett would refund him provided PSA verified the slab was indeed not legit. So he sent the card to PSA.

Lo and behold, PSA reholdered the card and gave it a new cert number. No explanation.