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To see that story please go to the link above.<br />\n<br />\nI also posed this question before, in &#8220;Jackie Robinson, photograph used to produce the 1952 Berk Ross Baseball Card?&#8221;<br />\n<a href="https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=314690" target="_blank">https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=314690</a> <br />\n<br />\nAnd again in, Vintage baseball photographs:<br />\n<a href="https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=314302" target="_blank">https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=314302</a> <br />\n<br />\nOk enough background. Question: When and how do you decide to have photos PSA-certified? I have a few  over 100, I have been thinking about having some of them PSA-certified. But I ask this about the Jackie Robinson photo. I have re-posted that question here.<br />\n<br />\nTaking the information I have discovered on the Jackie Robinson photo&#8230;It could be only one of three known to exist. Question- should I have the photo&#8230;PSA-certified. I do not like the certification process for photos, but in this case who knows? The photo was taken in 1946, look at the scoreboard, and it was the one used to produce the 1952 Berk Ross baseball card, and there are some modern reprints that use the same image. The problem is I have seen photos like the ones I have, (not the same) certified as type-1,2,and 3. In the case of the Jackie Robinson photo the type could be 1 or 2. The truth is there is no way anyone can tell if the image was made within two years of it being taken. 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I have a few  over 100, I have been thinking about having some of them PSA-certified.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Depends whether or not you\'re looking to sell, or keep within your own collection. If the lettering on your Jackie photo is embedded within the image (not sitting on top of the emulsion) it will return as either a Type III or Type IV example. This is due to the fact that in order to create multiples of that image with the lettering embedded they would have created a copy neg by shooting an existing photo with the lettering applied. 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But that is in printing, I do not know how it was done with the old photos. But as you said it would be easier to make a photostat from the original negative, and use that to make a new negative to mass produce photos with the names on them. <br />\r\n<br />\r\n As you know a copy from a print  (photostat) would have less quality, then to make a second negative from that photostat you lose even more quality, I do not not see that in photos I have. You can see this in the images I have posted. I used my phone to take the  images, and you can see the poor quality. Not to mention the photo paper used on the photos looks to be from the 1940s, I guess a type 3 or 4 could still be from the 1940s.<br />\r\n<br />\r\n I do not know. I thank you for your help. I have no plans to sell, but to keep them in the collection, They have been in the family since 1965. 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But to get psa to recognize them as an actual period release/issue.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>You stole my thunder, I am puting together my next post, it has to do with period release/issue.  I did have a question, so I will just ask it here...How do you go about getting PSA to recognize the images on the photo are actual Period issue date.  I will be posting what proof I believe I have to prove the photos are actual period pieces.  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But to get psa to recognize them as an actual period release/issue.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Yes, but typically not nearly as rare or valuable as the corresponding <br />\r\n"Type 1" photo... in my opinion.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				Focusing on Vintage Sports &amp; Non-Sports Photography for over 25 Years.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2506633" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2506633 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2506633_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Robbie</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=9131">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=9131" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Robbie</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=9131" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Robbie</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2506633 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2506633 -' + '->';
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pd[2506654] = '<!-' + '- post #2506654 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2506654" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2506654" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2506654&amp;postcount=12" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2506654" name="12"><strong>12</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2506654"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				03-31-2025, 06:30 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2506654">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=790759">Johnphotoman</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="Johnphotoman is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2506654", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nJohn Spiker\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				J0hn Sp.ik.er\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Oct 2021</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 264\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2506654">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2506654">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>TCMA</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2506617#post2506617" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Maybe I missed the answers to these questions but:<br />\r\n<br />\r\n1) Are all the photos the same size? <br />\r\n2) Do any have stamping on reverse?<br />\r\n3) Are all of the written names embedded within the images, not added on TOP of the images?<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\nSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div><br />\r\n1-2) All photos are 8x10 black and white nothing on the backs; No stamping.<br />\r\n3) All photos but a couple have the names within the images, not on top.  The names are in black or white.<br />\r\n But a couple are different, in the script that is on the photos. I have provided images of photos that are different.<br />\r\n4) The photos have been in the family since 1965-68. When discovered they were kept in photo albums that were circa 1940s. When found, the photos were aging, you could tell they were in those albums a long time at least 10-20 years. By aging I mean…they look like they were already looking as if they were  "vintage," or "antique”. They had a nostalgic and classic feel. I guess the proper term would be to say;that had a tone that gave the photos a vintage look.  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I hope to pass them down. I want the person who inherits the photos to know what they have. Especially if there is monetary value in them. How many times has someone just sold or disposed of a collection, all because they did not know what they had.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nFirst off I should disclose-I do not like the certification process for photos on type only. Second, we are having a conversation here, I take everybody\'s opinion and give it consideration. Please do the same. Most of the people posting know a lot more about the photo certification process than I do. In fact I have never used it, not sure how it works, that was the reason for the original post.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\n As I understand the process, there are photos like the ones I have that the certification process does not help, in fact it could do more damage to a collection, ie- authentication on when there were issues, value etc. In this case PSA certification does not improve on the photos or tell us what they are, but impairs the facts because all the system is interested in is how long between when the negative was made and the print was made. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nHowever, in the historical area which most baseball collectors are involved in, age itself is an essential quality. Not - if the print was made within two years from when the negative was developed. With many vintage collectors of baseball (memorabilia) historical items, age has always been an essential quality. I myself have alway be more interested in the  origins and age of the memorabilia. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nYou can have a photo that is old and original but not be  considered or certified as a PSA 1 photo. You and I both know the value of a piece is not in the type, because a type 3 photo could have more value then a type 1, it just depends on the image and when it was issued. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI may be wrong but a type 1 or 2 photos have more value then a type 3, because of the systems. With the system as it is- you can have a type 2 made 20 years after the first print was made and it would still be a type 2  because of how the system is set up. My point is this… take a photo say it is a type 2 circa 1920- then say the same photo was made as a type 3 - in the 1940s, and then the same photo ( original type 2 negative) is re-made as a type 2 1n 1970s. What is worth more to you the 1940s type 3 or 1970s type 2?  And would you say the type 3 is not an original, but the type 2 is an original? No, I would still call the type 3 an original, how about you?  To my point a type 3 photo could be rarer then a type 1 or 2 photo, which makes the type 3 more valuable.  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That being said, the maybe oversimplified answer to the OP&#8217;s question is if the photography subject is nearly impossible to find as a type 1 specimen, types 2, 3 &amp; 4 will be far more valuable than those types of a common subject, even if the common subject is Babe Ruth, Jackie Robinson, etc. At Hakes Auctions, we have recently sold a number of PSA authenticated type 2&#8217;s, 3&#8217;s and especially 4&#8217;s, that brought four figure prices because the more desirable type 1&#8217;s of those subjects do not exist or are so scarce that prices would be unaffordable in many cases. In this situation, it can certainly be feasible to pay for PSA to authenticate these knowing full well that they are not type 1 photos. Examples would be 1937 Ciudad Trujillo team photos with Josh Gibson, Satchel Paige and Cool Papa Bell and Jackie Robinson in his Kansas City Monarches uniform. 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Only making reproductions. Therefore every single national sports photo issued is a type 4. <br />\n<br />\nSo translating that into value if you were to send say jackie to psa and it gets a type 4. <br />\nType 4=Almost valueless. And you probably lose money on the submission price.<br />\n<br />\nWhile on the other hand if it was labeled as: National Sports photo ca 1950s and added to Jackie robinsons set registry, you would be talking thousands easily.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I answered the question about what type these would be here.<br />\n<br />\nThe reason type 4s are worthless is because I can go on the internet right now and print out a photo of any player and it would be a type 4. <br />\n<br />\nNot sure why there is any talk of type anymore at all when it comes to these. If you want to maximize value of them you would need to get PSA to recognize them as a release. 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I also understand from all the conversations here, the  market will determine the value of the photos. Thanks for all the great conversations, believe it or not I am gaining a lot of knowledge. <br />\n<br />\nLucas00 is probably right about them being a decade release 1940-1950. All the information I have points out they were not a release year or part of a set. The reason I rule out the 1960s is because they have been in my family since 1968, when they were discovered - they were in photo albums from the 1940s, which look like they were there for 10-15 years already. <br />\n<br />\nAs for them bening National Sports photo- there is properly no doubt they are. We see Ted Willams and Johnny Van Der Meer,  the two photos are on the cover of the National Sports Photos- catalog. My photos are the exact same photos. And Jackie Robinson\'s photo is in the same style. All the photos are in the same style, this is the style used by National Sports Photos since the 1940s.  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As I mentioned previously, two Dominican League baseball photos that pictured Josh Gibson sold in Hakes Auctions for $8K+ and $4K+. That’s nothing to sneeze at if you ask me. What you are failing to recognize is that these were identified on the flips as 1950’s and 1960’s productions. A 2025 Type 4 would be worthless, yes. But that’s a difference of 70 years or so.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>That\'s true, but they would have period identifying marks on the front/back, so easily identified as vintage in some way. The Ops are all blank. The vast vast majority of type 4s are 80s or newer money grabs that have no value. And are low quality grainy prints that are white on the back. <br />\n<br />\nIt\'s actually kind of funny, I would say type 4 truly vintage photos are actually far rarer than any other type. Because everybody either had a negative or purchased a type 1 for publication use or used wire photos. 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Take the photos I have, if they are type 4, the verdict is still out on that one. They are very-very-rare, you just do not see them around that much.  As far as when they came out the photos are circa 1940s-1950s that is a given. <br />\n<br />\nBut as most people have said, in this case the Type of photo does not change the fact that they are either 75 years or 85 years old  to date. We know they are over 60 years old, because of when they were discovered. <br />\n<br />\nThe image of the name on the photos could have been added right from the original negative, this was done as far back circa 1920s. Making them a Type 2. No one can say what process was used, a best guess scenario would be applied, same can be said about when the photo was captured. But they are cool and a mystery, but we are  nailing down the facts here. <br />\n<br />\nAnd had I believed people in the past when Henry Yee, Marshall Fogel (2005) created the Type system&#8230;I would have just put them in the trash.  The book did bring attention to collecting photos, because it was hard to find any information on cards. But I can tell you people believed I had something very rare before the type system, not so much in value but in historical contact and they believe they were vintage photos. This is probably why I have kept them. 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I enjoy vintage pictures and have bought and sold a couple.  Regarding PSA, if you pay the extra amount for a LOA in addition to encapsulation you get a lot more information other than what is contained on the label.  With just the label itself you receive very little information.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nIn the example attached, both of Chief Bender, there are a couple of excellent examples that fit this thread.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe snapshot is, and always should be, a type I example.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe photo is a type II.  I attached it along with the letter to show the type of information I receive when I also pay for an LOA.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- attachments -' + '->\r\n			<div style="padding:6px">\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n				<fieldset class="fieldset">\r\n					<legend>Attached Images</legend>\r\n					<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="3" border="0">\r\n					<tr>\r\n	<td><img class="inlineimg" src="images/attach/jpg.gif" alt="File Type: jpg" width="16" height="16" border="0" style="vertical-align:baseline" /></td>\r\n	<td><a href="attachment.php?attachmentid=656907&amp;d=1743947833">IMG_8319.jpg</a> (208.3 KB, 94 views)</td>\r\n</tr><tr>\r\n	<td><img class="inlineimg" src="images/attach/jpg.gif" alt="File Type: jpg" width="16" height="16" border="0" style="vertical-align:baseline" /></td>\r\n	<td><a href="attachment.php?attachmentid=656908&amp;d=1743947842">IMG_8331.jpg</a> (167.4 KB, 93 views)</td>\r\n</tr><tr>\r\n	<td><img class="inlineimg" src="images/attach/jpg.gif" alt="File Type: jpg" width="16" height="16" border="0" style="vertical-align:baseline" /></td>\r\n	<td><a href="attachment.php?attachmentid=656909&amp;d=1743947850">IMG_8330.jpg</a> (189.6 KB, 93 views)</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n					</table>\r\n					</fieldset>\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / attachments -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2508035" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2508035 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2508035_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">gonefishin</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=892103">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=892103" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to gonefishin</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=892103" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by gonefishin</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2508035 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2508035 -' + '->';
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I enjoy vintage pictures and have bought and sold a couple.  Regarding PSA, if you pay the extra amount for a LOA in addition to encapsulation you get a lot more information other than what is contained on the label.  With just the label itself you receive very little information.<br />\n<br />\nIn the example attached, both of Chief Bender, there are a couple of excellent examples that fit this thread.<br />\n<br />\nThe snapshot is, and always should be, a type I example.<br />\n<br />\nThe photo is a type II.  I attached it along with the letter to show the type of information I receive when I also pay for an LOA.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>This helps a lot.  But how did PSA identify the photo as a Type 2? It looks like there were markings on the back? I see the photo was a reissued photo from the 1950. Issued in the 1980s made of the original negative. How did they know that it was Type 2?  It says-  The  characteristics of the Image, paper stock, reverse stampings, notations are consistent with those of a Type 2 photo.  Is this right? 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I remember hearing that term used on the photos before. But I did not give it much thought, heck there are all souvenir photos. But now thanks to TCMA-  I understand it is a classification  for photos, commercially sold, not part of a set. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe other day I was going over my notes on the photos I have….and saw a note -“Souvenir Photos”.  Let me explain, in 1977 my Dad went to a Baltimore Orioles and New York Yankees baseball game. The broadcast announcers for that game were Rex Barney for Baltimore and Phil Rizzuto for New York. My Dad had their photos with him. He was able to show them the photos, and they both autographed them in ballpoint pen. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nThey did discuss the photos a little, the best I can understand, they both believed they were “Souvenir Photos” from when they played the game.. My Dad mentioned to Rex Barney that his photo looked like it was from 1946 because of the uniform. His response, it could be. Now I have to ask, does anyone recognize the uniform, and can you say what year it is from? I know it is a Brooklyn Dodgers uniform.<br />\r\n<br />\r\n  The connection there is proof that souvenir photos like Rex Barnry and Phil Rizzuto were issued in 1947. And we know these souvenir photos were issued by the National Sports photo company. There is a chance that some of the  photos I have were taken in the 1940s and issued with the names on them in 1947. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nIt has been established that the National Sports photo company issued photos like the ones I have - with the names on them, in 1947. Now for the confusing part, even if the photos were taken in 1946 and printed in 1947 with the names on the photos, they could be classified as a Type 1, 2, 3 and even a 4- if I understand how the type system works.  You see the confusion: a photo that is over 70 years old- could be a type 4, but a photo from the 1940s made from the original negative a year ago would be a Type 2.  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Mostly by placing  a small monetary value on Type 3 and 4, not only that they are of the opinion there is no market for them.  I said it before,  I cannot say- how many times someone with a lot of knowledge told me there is not much use for the photos I have, but each one wanted to take them off my hands. But that is all changing now, it has a lot to do with net54, where we can get opinions of every kind to help us collectors make wise decisions. This post is proof of that.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI do  see a trend where this negative opinion is changing, people are starting to realize the type the photo is Classified as, is not as important as the subject and date of issues, not to mention how rare (one-of-a-kind) type 3-4 photos can be.  There is no debut Type 3-4 photos can be of great historical value and interest at times more than Type 1 and 2 photos. people are even realizing how cool they are to have in a collection. 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There would be an original file photo somewhere on a paste-up board with the name, logo, etc., stripped onto it.  <br />\n<br />\nAnother thing I find annoying about it is that team issues are not collected for photo clarity per se, they are all about the fact that the team issued the photo in that given year as the official publicity photo of the player.  Same with publicity photos, tales of the tape (boxer head to head photos with stats), and similar.  It is closer to card collecting than to photo collecting.  <br />\n<br />\nI (and the others who I know who are into them) prefer the \'official\' Type III to some random Type I image.  If the market hasn\'t developed for that, fantastic, I get to add more of them to my PC.  <br />\n<br />\nAhh well, in the end, best to not fret over PSA\'s designations and just try to enjoy them.  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One of the reasons I thought about PSA\'s designations was maybe by doing so, more information would be discovered about the photos. But thanks to everybody posting here I understand that is not the case. What I have learned is that photo classification as a Type (number system) is mainly used as a catalog system - for how long the print was made from the original negative. I for one have no use in such a system, it might work on Wire photos and team issues photos. <br />\n<br />\nNo wait, not on team photo packs&#8230;take the 1956 Yankees Action Photo set.( See for more information on this in link) <a href="https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=359423" target="_blank">https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=359423</a><br />\n<br />\nThe 1956 Yankees Action Photo set -has a photo of Hank Bauer which is a match for the baseball card 1952 Berk Ross-Hit Parade of champions. I have the exact photo with name on it - all just like the issue pack, the Berk Ross card is an exact match to the photo&#8230;right down to the name on the photo. But the card came out in 1952, the photo came out in 1956.<br />\n<br />\n But wait, that is not all I found. I discovered the photo had to be taken in 1948. I started doing some digging into the uniforms and the uniforms proves the photo is from 1948. In 1948 the Yankees wore a black armband on the left sleeve, in honor of Babe Ruth. Therefore the photo is not an original photo pack, but the 1956 Yankees photo pack used older photos. The photo is a 1948 issue or say when it was taken.<br />\n<br />\n How would PSA handle the photo, they would classify it as a type, most likely a Type 3. Sadly I would miss all the historical information about the photo. No information that the image was a 1952 Berk Ross baseball card, I would not know it was a team photo from 1956, or have proof that the photo was taken in 1948. <br />\n<br />\nPSA does not investigate the photos as cards, ie-evaluate the condition of the photos etc. or are concerned with issue date or historical interest. I thought PSA would be able to provide historical information, or say when the photo was issued, maybe be able to tell how old the photos are etc. <br />\n<br />\nWhat about my Jackie Robinson photograph? If most people are right,  it would be a Type 3. Despite the fact  it could be very rare, I have only seen two others and  they were articles on how the photo was used to make the Berk Ross card. The two linked articles- suggest the photo was used as a photostat to make the 1952 Berk Ross baseball card.<br />\n<br />\n<a href="https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1952-jackie-robinson-berk-ross-card-1879264083#:~:text=to%20the%20Major-,Leagues,-.%20He%20would%20win" target="_blank">https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...%20would%20win</a><br />\n<br />\n<a href="http://keymancollectibles.com/photos/1952berkrossjackierobinsonphoto.htm#:~:text=PRICE-,GUIDE,-%2D%20%24100.%2D%24200" target="_blank">http://keymancollectibles.com/photos...4100.%2D%24200</a><br />\n<br />\nWhat are we missing, this photo was taken in 1946, we know this because of the date on the scoreboard. This photo is before Jackie  was in Major League Baseball. <br />\n<br />\nJackie Robinson signed his first National League contract with the Brooklyn Dodgers on October 23, 1945, and made his debut on April 15, 1947, becoming the first African American to play in modern Major League Baseball.<br />\n<br />\nHow important can this photo be,  the photo actually hails from a1946- 1947 preseason series against the Yankees just prior to Jackie&#8217;s official debut. TCMA-Andrew Aronstein provided the Original photo from &#8220;getty images&#8221;  see below. 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My question has always been how do we know that a photo is a team issue versus something that the photographer put out?  It gets really muddy when other very similar shots from the same session emerge.  I have one or two like that which must&#8217;ve been shot literally second apart. These guys shot a ton of images and the client then would choose the ones to use. Without any distinguishing marks on them which are the team issues then?   I don&#8217;t know but it is confusing to me.  At least when the teams move to Type III style team issues you can tell which photos the team chose if the Type I emerges. 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