Any Opinions on the Helmar cards on Ebay ?

[npa589]

Good points...

Strictly speaking about the product, I'm saying that it's very creative. I have more than suspected shill bidding, and that it doesn't pass the "gut" test for me - which is why I wouldn't pay a dollar for one. I do agree that dates should be put on them. To keep some kind of aged lore, they could write "21st Century Tobacco".

It smells like shilling, it really does. How often do these top 2 or 3 bidders actually "win" an item? If it's less than 50%, then, well, that's the giveaway. Why would the same "interested 3 collectors" compete with each other, battle it out for the cards, but all walk away with nothing?

Again, though, it can smell like it, but it might not be. If there is NO shilling occuring, I wish them continued success. If they are articificially driving up the prices, then I hope their business crumbles.

Originally Posted by danmckee

I don't like it. I have asked the seller to date them. The other guy making the new art cards dates his.

I also think the ridiculous prices on some are due to shill bidding. Look at the bid history, the top 2 or 3 bidders on those ridiculous priced ones, bid with that seller 75% of the time or more.