Addie Joss auto?

[nolemmings]

It's not being sold as an autograph. It's offered as Joss' handwriting to his son--someone else added Adrian's identification later.

[tbob]

How did Kevin Keating verify the handwriting was Joss'? What did he compare it to? It could be someone in Cleveland who was a friend of the family who saw Joss' picture and thought that it son would like to see it. I'm skeptical. Hope it's genuine.

[michael3322]

I also wondered how Kevin did the authentication.

A quick Google search produced the following article on Keating on the PSA website: Catching Up with Kevin Keating

Apparently Keating who runs Quality Autographs, graduated from the US Military Academy at West Point with a 4.0 GPA (with a major in Chinese and Far East Studies) and later earned a master's degree from Johns Hopkins.

Unfortunately, Google didn't reveal any other specimens of Joss' handwriting...

[jtschantz]

I have searched long and hard for a Joss autograph with no luck at all. I live in Toledo OH and have visited Addie's grave site (Woodlawn cemetary) and driven by his house (it sold for $800 a few years ago!). A friend of mine visited with his grandaughter for an article he was writing for the Toledo Blade 25 years ago. The grandaughter gave the writer a panoramic picture from the Addie Joss Tribute (all star) game that was originally presented to Addie's wife. I have never been able to find anything that had his signature.

[packs]

It seems like a stretch to attribute the postcard to Joss. Without running a census report, who is to say that there wasn't more than one Norman Joss in Toledo? If there is a complete and fully verified Addie Joss handwritten note that the authenticator compared the handwriting to I would love to see it. I bet it's a beauty.

[HexsHeroes]

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. . . that Kevin Keating acquired a Joss signed legal document (deed, loan document, will?) for inclusion into his own personal baseball HOFer autograph collection.

I could be mistaken, but I thought a Joss handwritten letter had also surfaced over the past 10-15 years too.

[sago]

Originally Posted by packs

It seems like a stretch to attribute the postcard to Joss. Without running a census report, who is to say that there wasn't more than one Norman Joss in Toledo? If there is a complete and fully verified Addie Joss handwritten note that the authenticator compared the handwriting to I would love to see it. I bet it's a beauty.

I searched for the name in all databases on ancestry.com. Only one Norman Joss in Toledo, born in 1902.

[michael3322]

Sago: that's some great, swift net research. Thanks.

It settles whether this could conceivably be a postcard to Joss' son. I think the point remains though that it is impossible for us to verify that this is Addie's actual writing without exemplars.

Since Joss was also a journalist, I wonder why drafts of his articles or any checques or legal documents bearing his signature have not surfaced.