FAKE packs and an FBI Fraud Investigation: What would YOU do?

[pepis]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

I'm fairly certain members of the CU board have purchased plenty of bad packs from Pepis, and many surfaced on eBay. I could be wrong, but there are still several members who are bitter with what Pepis did to them.

Jason, your comment is dumb and ignorant! how can you be fairly certain of something that nobody has any prove! and that is because it didn't happen,
however almost every CU member that collects graded packs does have bogus packs that came from different sources i've seen a few 1978 cellos w/Bench
on top for example and Bench never came on the top section and that is something that can be verified easily and a few members already know know
i'm right but they are to afraid to bring it to light because they would have to admit they learned it from me or my post
thank you for bringing the cu members bushing up
i did see that cpamike said he called me out he is one of the most respected
people on that board but here is something you don't need to be fairly certain
you can be absolutely certain that the rack pack in the picture CPAMIKE sold
about 3 weeks ago to an innocent collector is BOGUS and he knows that
in fact 3 weeks earlier he sold another bogus rack although that one was
graded by GAI so he figure he could hide behind that. see jason the truth
is in net54 and the BS in CU.

[jhs5120]

Originally Posted by pepis

Jason,
thank you for bringing the cu members bushing up
i did see that cpamike said he called me out he is one of the most respected
people on that board but here is something you don't need to be fairly certain
you can be absolutely certain that the rack pack in the picture CPAMIKE sold
about 3 weeks ago to an innocent collector is BOGUS and he knows that
in fact 3 weeks earlier he sold another bogus rack although that one was
graded by GAI so he figure he could hide behind that. see jason the truth
is in net54 and the BS in CU.

You never addressed my concern (which is very telling to me). Have any of your bad packs entered the market?


According to several who have some of your jobs in their possession, the answer is yes.

You can keep circling the question, but most of us already know the answer.

[Cardboard Junkie]

Aloha Jose....Have any of your bad packs entered the market??

By the way I'm FBI...(From Big Island) Dave.

[pepis]

Originally Posted by Cardboard Junkie

Aloha Jose....Have any of your bad packs entered the market??

By the way I'm FBI...(From Big Island) Dave.

That has been addressed in post # 57 and again in post # 172 all it takes is for you to pay attention to what you read there is a lot of information in here on the matter, and a lot more is coming all intelligent people need to do is pay attention to what you read
and ignore the PSA groupies that are trying to disrupt things, i'm an intelligent well educated man, and will respond to educated
constructive questions only, confrontational and apparently ignorant people that can seem to understand what they read and only
find false valor behind a key board will be ignore.
as for you DavidG1966 or MrSnuffleupagus at the CU you Know you have many bad packs and despite what you preach
you know you are going to sell them to innocent people instead of claiming the PSA guarantee.

[jhs5120]

Originally Posted by pepis

That has been addressed in post # 57 and again in post # 172

Here are the posts that you are referencing: (corrected the spelling mistakes)

Originally Posted by pepis

The packs that I was involved directly in altering that graded
are still in my possession, I call them proof and think only 12 people will see them.

Like I said earlier in the thread all the packs that I personally altered and
got graded are still in my possession.

How about the packs you never had graded?

or

How about the packs that you were "indirectly" involved with? (whatever that means)

[KCRfan1]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

Here are the posts that you are referencing: (corrected the spelling mistakes)



How about the packs you never had graded?

or

How about the packs that you were "indirectly" involved with? (whatever that means)

I've thought the same thing.

[Republicaninmass]

Also, which packs were "grated"

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Originally Posted by pepis

Jason,
thank you for bringing the cu members bushing up
i did see that cpamike said he called me out he is one of the most respected
people on that board but here is something you don't need to be fairly certain
you can be absolutely certain that the rack pack in the picture CPAMIKE sold
about 3 weeks ago to an innocent collector is BOGUS and he knows that
in fact 3 weeks earlier he sold another bogus rack although that one was
graded by GAI so he figure he could hide behind that. see jason the truth
is in net54 and the BS in CU.

Jose, you're going to have to prove that CPAMike knew those packs were bad before you go throwing out accusations like that. Not cool.

[Cardboard Junkie]

Jose has "surfaced" on the post war side.

[hamilton989]

Hi,

I am new to this forum but not new to this issue at all. I was recently made aware of the allegations (very confusing) surrounding the dealer and have some insight to add. As I am (or was) an avid collector of unopened material with stars showing, I have dealt with Jose one time in the past. You can see my pack collection at http://thehistorykids.net/packs

Anyhow, a couple of things:
1.) The very same people the guy is throwing under the bus now vigorously defended him when I brought up suspicion about him in a different forum in 2011.
2.) He is presenting himself as some kind of crusader for the integrity of this sub-hobby. Kool-aid anyone?
3.) Below is what I brought up on the other forum and his response back in 2011.

Monday December 19, 2011 4:00 PM

Thanks everyone for welcoming into the forum. A couple of people have asked about my experiences with the ebay dealer E******, and although I have no intention of disparaging anyone or any dealer here on this forum, I will relay one experience I had with him which led me to leave him negative feedback on ebay:

A couple of years ago, he auctioned off a 1983 fleer rack pack that had Wade Boggs and Tony Gwynn showing on the front. I won the auction, paid him immediately and thought he would send the rack promptly. Two or so days later, he refunded my money and reported to ebay that the pack was damaged in handling. In thinking to myself how someone could have damaged a 1983 fleer pack when packaging it up, I came to the conclusion that he didn't want ME to buy it. This particular dealer subsequently banned me from all of his auctions. My guess is that he knew I could tell a fake pack from a real pack and he was hesitant in sending me the fake. I left him negative feedback. Confirming my suspicions, after the 90 day period where I could no longer submit any formal complaints, and at the time, when images would be deleted from ebay's database, the very same rack pack came up for auction from him again. So, it really wasn't damaged in "handling," he was hesitant to sell it to me. This combined with his seemingly endless supply of unbelievable unopened material including star racks and cellos from every year imaginable has led me to believe he sells inauthentic stuff.

This is only my opinion based on my limited experiences with him. I have never actually received unopened material from him. It is very likely he sells legitimate stuff as well, I guess. I will remove the line on my page that mentions him, as I never intended this topic to be brought up here.

Pepis e-mail to me:

Hello Greg,
when i went to get the pack out of the cabinet
in my office, it was gone! stolen! probably
by some youg kid friend of the family i think,
i hoping to get it back, but is taking me some time
to investigate, so, for now i have to give you
a refund on it, i have a very similar pack listed
right now (Gwynn/Sandberg graded 9.5 also)
item # 250172307764
if you by chance happen to like it, i would be
happy to exchange it, i apologize for the
inconvenience, although the loser here is me.
Jose

4.) The guy's (the pepis guy) response in the forum when I called him out

Unfortunately, this has been a feud that has gone on for four years. I have posted the original email below showing in detail how your recount of the story is incorrect. The pack was stolen by my sons friend. I am an honest, truthful man. I have a reputation on e-bay and well before the internet was invented of dealing honestly and being a straight shooter. I have been in the card business for over 40 years. You can ask any of my customers how much I am respected in the industry. I would appreciate if in the future you stick to the truth, so I don't have to present information to prove my credibility against your erroneous accusations. I am sorry that you have not gotten over a situation 4 years old, that was out of my control. Even though, as a man who respects customer service, I tried to make amends when the incident happened. You called me a liar then, which was incorrect, and now you post lies about me on a forum. That is not what a man does.

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Originally Posted by hamilton989

Hi,

I am new to this forum but not new to this issue at all. I was recently made aware of the allegations (very confusing) surrounding the dealer and have some insight to add. As I am (or was) an avid collector of unopened material with stars showing, I have dealt with Jose one time in the past. You can see my pack collection at http://thehistorykids.net/packs

Anyhow, a couple of things:
1.) The very same people the guy is throwing under the bus now vigorously defended him when I brought up suspicion about him in a different forum in 2011.
2.) He is presenting himself as some kind of crusader for the integrity of this sub-hobby. Kool-aid anyone?
3.) Below is what I brought up on the other forum and his response back in 2011.

Monday December 19, 2011 4:00 PM

Thanks everyone for welcoming into the forum. A couple of people have asked about my experiences with the ebay dealer E******, and although I have no intention of disparaging anyone or any dealer here on this forum, I will relay one experience I had with him which led me to leave him negative feedback on ebay:

A couple of years ago, he auctioned off a 1983 fleer rack pack that had Wade Boggs and Tony Gwynn showing on the front. I won the auction, paid him immediately and thought he would send the rack promptly. Two or so days later, he refunded my money and reported to ebay that the pack was damaged in handling. In thinking to myself how someone could have damaged a 1983 fleer pack when packaging it up, I came to the conclusion that he didn't want ME to buy it. This particular dealer subsequently banned me from all of his auctions. My guess is that he knew I could tell a fake pack from a real pack and he was hesitant in sending me the fake. I left him negative feedback. Confirming my suspicions, after the 90 day period where I could no longer submit any formal complaints, and at the time, when images would be deleted from ebay's database, the very same rack pack came up for auction from him again. So, it really wasn't damaged in "handling," he was hesitant to sell it to me. This combined with his seemingly endless supply of unbelievable unopened material including star racks and cellos from every year imaginable has led me to believe he sells inauthentic stuff.

This is only my opinion based on my limited experiences with him. I have never actually received unopened material from him. It is very likely he sells legitimate stuff as well, I guess. I will remove the line on my page that mentions him, as I never intended this topic to be brought up here.

Pepis e-mail to me:

Hello Greg,
when i went to get the pack out of the cabinet
in my office, it was gone! stolen! probably
by some youg kid friend of the family i think,
i hoping to get it back, but is taking me some time
to investigate, so, for now i have to give you
a refund on it, i have a very similar pack listed
right now (Gwynn/Sandberg graded 9.5 also)
item # 250172307764
if you by chance happen to like it, i would be
happy to exchange it, i apologize for the
inconvenience, although the loser here is me.
Jose

4.) The guy's (the pepis guy) response in the forum when I called him out

Unfortunately, this has been a feud that has gone on for four years. I have posted the original email below showing in detail how your recount of the story is incorrect. The pack was stolen by my sons friend. I am an honest, truthful man. I have a reputation on e-bay and well before the internet was invented of dealing honestly and being a straight shooter. I have been in the card business for over 40 years. You can ask any of my customers how much I am respected in the industry. I would appreciate if in the future you stick to the truth, so I don't have to present information to prove my credibility against your erroneous accusations. I am sorry that you have not gotten over a situation 4 years old, that was out of my control. Even though, as a man who respects customer service, I tried to make amends when the incident happened. You called me a liar then, which was incorrect, and now you post lies about me on a forum. That is not what a man does.

Hi,

I don't want to be a referee in this dispute, but please make your personal information public. Thanks.

Dan

[Leon]

Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

Hi,

I don't want to be a referee in this dispute, but please make your personal information public. Thanks.

Dan

He I did. Rules are rules. This one is even at the top of every page on the forum.

[DavidG1966]

So can I sell my packs now? (LOL)

The only thing missing from this thread so far is him:

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Originally Posted by Leon

He I did. Rules are rules. This one is even at the top of every page on the forum.

Thanks Leon, keep up the outstanding work!