You spotted a fake, had your seizure,and I learned nothing.

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by Runscott

It may seem to the OP like not enough info has been posted, but most of us do not try to educate everyone from square one on each and every post. Just ask for specifics and you won't be ignored.

+1

[Stonepony]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Runscott
It may seem to the OP like not enough info has been posted, but most of us do not try to educate everyone from square one on each and every post. Just ask for specifics and you won't be ignored.

No need for square one education on every post and its clear everyone here is helpful. My point was if you out a bad card or auto , tell us why... Or not I guess.
Just my 2 cents. Thanks

[glchen]

One of the biggest reasons to say fake is if it were a card worth several thousands of dollars or more, then seller would have had the card authenticated by a reputable TPG. So if they didn't, you should already come into it very suspicious. In addition, you look at the seller feedbacks. If the feedback # is very low, then you are even more suspicious. Then you look at what else the seller is selling. If this is the only card they are selling, or all of the cards that they selling are known to have been reprinted or counterfeited many times, it's another sign that you should avoid the sale. So basically, you can have all of the above without even really studying a scan of the card, and know that it's probably a fake. However, if the card is sold with a bunch of other cards that are authentic, then the card is worth studying more because there's a lot better chance. For example, if a Babe Ruth strip card is sold at the same time as a bunch of other commons from the same set, then there's a better chance that it's authentic.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by glchen

One of the biggest reasons to say fake is if it were a card worth several thousands of dollars or more, then seller would have had the card authenticated by a reputable TPG. So if they didn't, you should already come into it very suspicious. In addition, you look at the seller feedbacks. If the feedback # is very low, then you are even more suspicious. Then you look at what else the seller is selling. If this is the only card they are selling, or all of the cards that they selling are known to have been reprinted or counterfeited many times, it's another sign that you should avoid the sale. So basically, you can have all of the above without even really studying a scan of the card, and know that it's probably a fake. However, if the card is sold with a bunch of other cards that are authentic, then the card is worth studying more because there's a lot better chance. For example, if a Babe Ruth strip card is sold at the same time as a bunch of other commons from the same set, then there's a better chance that it's authentic.

Excellent post, Gary.

[Stonepony]

Ok, thanks all image.jpg

[CaramelMan]

As another new guy, I don't know if I can write this but, you are coming across as a real wise ass, I don't think that is a way to garner more help in the future...

[Leon]

Originally Posted by CaramelMan

As another new guy, I don't know if I can write this but, you are coming across as a real wise ass, I don't think that is a way to garner more help in the future...

New or old you can write almost anything you want to as long as your full name is in your post, which it is. If folks think I, or another moderator, are doing something wrong...it is fine to point it out and debate it. As for the drawing, looks like his opinion and he is entitled to that as much as I am entitled to pointing to parts of the board that will help his cause (if he really wants to learn). Horse > water > drink

[bobbyw8469]

Here here....I myself, don't mind telling people what to look for on dealing with fake/reprint Sport Kings cards, but it seems like I repeat the same info over and over. Gets a little redundant. A archive/search function can do wonders. Shoot, I bet if you even typed what you are looking for in Google, it shows up that way too!

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

Ok, thanks all Attachment 110628

this image is hilarious. i have been laughing for the last 10 minutes.

kevin

[Stonepony]

No harm intended. I AM a bit of a wise ass I suppose , but this thread was intended to be helpful ( and somewhat tongue in cheek as I offered up front). I have been collecting ( not continuously ) since mid 70s, and while I have a pretty good knowledge base, I am by far no expert and love learning . This site is fantastic for that. Thanks for all the input, and I'm glad alot of you are thick skinned and recognize some attempt at humor. Thanks, Dave

[CaramelMan]

Ya but it's had to tell (when you are new) if you are being a wise guy, or funny...it's that I felt like I was being reprimanded in your OP...SORRY we weren't as helpful as you would have wanted us to be...remember sometimes you get what you pay for...this is a free site remember Stony.

[auggiedoggy]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

this image is hilarious. i have been laughing for the last 10 minutes.

kevin

I come here also for the humour.

[Rickyy]

Net 54 archive folder is very helpful for new members and old...gives you links and tips for searching for answers to your questions...by keywords and titles...I use it all the time. Ricky Y

[D.P.Johnson]

A lot of good responses in this thread...Thanks all...

[ullmandds]

Or...on the other hand...there is an archive which will contain ad nauseum the answer to almost any question any of you may have regarding detecting fakes...counterfeits...as well as any other question regarding vintage cards...etc...all you have to do is a little searching and all of your dreams will come true.

IT took many of us decades to accumulate our knowledge base...and it gets quite tiresome(as there are soooooo many fake cards out there) to go over the obvious reasons each and every time!

Use the search/archive functions!!!!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Or...on the other hand...there is an archive which will contain ad nauseum the answer to almost any question any of you may have regarding detecting fakes...counterfeits...as well as any other question regarding vintage cards...etc...all you have to do is a little searching and all of your dreams will come true.

IT took many of us decades to accumulate our knowledge base...and it gets quite tiresome(as there are soooooo many fake cards out there) to go over the obvious reasons each and every time!

Use the search/archive functions!!!!

Good points Peter. The Archives section does contain a lot of good info about sets. And right next to that section is one on Detecting Alterations and Reprints. There is a lot of good info in those two places and I think many times people don't even know they are there. It is the row of icons at the top of every page, and it's the 2 of them on the far right. Happy collecting....