Can this CJ really be Mint?

[auggiedoggy]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

No way....Someone got a huge break...

... cards that have minor print defects can still quality as mint. I've seen other cards that fit this caveat. If it is deemed that this card came out of the factory printed this way then it can receive a mint grade. The card owner did get a break on this one as I think this is more than a minor print defect. This card would NOT qualify as a Gem Mint however since a Gem Mint is a pristine card, no defects of any kind right of the press.

Here is PSA's definition of Mint:

MINT 9: Mint

A PSA Mint 9 is a superb condition card that exhibits only one of the following minor flaws: a very slight wax stain on reverse, a minor printing imperfection or slightly off-white borders. Centering must be approximately 60/40 to 65/35 or better on the front and 90/10 or better on the reverse.

[KCRfan1]

SGC's grading is similar to PSA for a mint 9. This is a beautiful card, and based on SGC's definition ( and PSA even though the card is SGC ) the card appears to meet the criteria. I am curious what you would grade the card at if you feel the card is over graded and got a " break ".

[nsaddict]

How about the under bidder? At 42% but has over 1000 bids? As for the card, I'm ok with the 96. That is one heck of a card even with minor defect.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by KCRfan1

SGC's grading is similar to PSA for a mint 9. This is a beautiful card, and based on SGC's definition ( and PSA even though the card is SGC ) the card appears to meet the criteria. I am curious what you would grade the card at if you feel the card is over graded and got a " break ".

SGC 88 at best....

[KCRfan1]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

SGC 88 at best....

We'll agree to disagree. The card meets more of the criteria for an SGC 96, than it does for an SGC 88 or " at best ". I suggest you review the SGC Grading Scale for their grading standards to better your understanding. If this were your card, you would be screaming mad if it graded an 88 " at best ". The card is spot on for the grade.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by KCRfan1

We'll agree to disagree. The card meets more of the criteria for an SGC 96, than it does for an SGC 88 or " at best ". I suggest you review the SGC Grading Scale for their grading standards to better your understanding. If this were your card, you would be screaming mad if it graded an 88 " at best ". The card is spot on for the grade.

You're right, probably should have received a 98....

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by KCRfan1

We'll agree to disagree. The card meets more of the criteria for an SGC 96, than it does for an SGC 88 or " at best ". I suggest you review the SGC Grading Scale for their grading standards to better your understanding. If this were your card, you would be screaming mad if it graded an 88 " at best ". The card is spot on for the grade.

OK....

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by KCRfan1

SGC's grading is similar to PSA for a mint 9. This is a beautiful card, and based on SGC's definition ( and PSA even though the card is SGC ) the card appears to meet the criteria. I am curious what you would grade the card at if you feel the card is over graded and got a " break ".

Come on guys...The bottom line is that if this card was a PSA 9, all Hell would be breaking loose and you know it. "What the Hell where they thinking?" "How did this get a 9?" "PSA is a joke". By the way, here's the irony, the card is being sold by Rick Probstein! Remember those past threads and accusations??

[conor912]

A PSA 9 can be 90/10 on the back !?!?!

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by auggiedoggy

... cards that have minor print defects can still quality as mint. I've seen other cards that fit this caveat. If it is deemed that this card came out of the factory printed this way then it can receive a mint grade. The card owner did get a break on this one as I think this is more than a minor print defect. This card would NOT qualify as a Gem Mint however since a Gem Mint is a pristine card, no defects of any kind right of the press.

Here is PSA's definition of Mint:

MINT 9: Mint

A PSA Mint 9 is a superb condition card that exhibits only one of the following minor flaws: a very slight wax stain on reverse, a minor printing imperfection or slightly off-white borders. Centering must be approximately 60/40 to 65/35 or better on the front and 90/10 or better on the reverse.

Rob- could you show me an example??

[Brian Van Horn]

I love how the red bows into the right border in the upper right corner of the picture.

[auggiedoggy]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Rob- could you show me an example??

No, not at the moment. I've seen a few over the years though. If my memory serves me correct, one of the examples may have been from the Black Swamp Find. If I manage to find one I'll post it here.