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<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/50123/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=baseball&LH_TitleDesc=0&_oac=1&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=Vintagebaseballmemorabilia&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Baseball Memorabilia on eBay</a><br>

<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=baseball+exhibit+-reprint&_sacat=261328&LH_TitleDesc=0&_fsrp=1&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=exhibits&toolid=10001&mkevt=1 " target=_blank>Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay</a><br>


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<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Play+Ball+-reprint+-topps+-upper&_sacat=213&LH_TitleDesc=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_fsrp=1&Original%252FReprint=Original%7C%21&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=playball&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Play Ball Cards on eBay</a><br>


<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=joe+dimaggio+card+-reprint&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&toolid=10001&mkcid=1&campid=5338821054&_odkw=joe+dimaggio+card&_osacat=0&_sop=1&siteid=0&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&customid=joedimaggio" target=_blank>Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay</a><br>


<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/212/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Mickey+Mantle+-reprint+-book+-new+-1997&LH_TitleDesc=0&_fsrp=1&Era=%21&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=MickeyMantle&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay</a><br>


<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=%281951%2C1952%2C+1953%2C+1954%2C+1955%29+bowman&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&rt=nc&Era=Post%252DWWII%2520%25281942%252D1980%2529&_odkw=Bowman&_osacat=0&_dcat=213&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=5152535455bowman&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay</a><br>


<a href="https://www.ebay.com/b/Football-Sports-Trading-Cards-Accessories/212/bn_2313620?_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=footballcards&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Football Cards on eBay</a><br>


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Until the very recent past there was a number of home runs you could hit and make the HOF automatically.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div><div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>vintagetoppsguy</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=1317625#post1317625" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Because, as mentioned above, there used to be a number (500) of homeruns that a player could hit and automatically make the HOF.  I believe that still exists.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>That\'s flawed logic.  Just because players who hit a certain number of home runs made the HOF, doesn\'t mean they would have done so if their batting average had sucked.<br />\n<br />\nDavid - I\'m not trying to be contentious here.  I think that Dunn\'s batting average could suck, but there could be other things he does, above and beyond what the other 500+ guys did, that could make up for it.  For example, if he was a great-fielding second-baseman, or stole bases and scored a lot of runs.  I think his OBP is worth considering, but I don\'t think that\'s enough.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				<font size="2"><font color="Black">$co++ Forre$+ </font> </font>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by Runscott; 09-02-2014 at <span class="time">05:35 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1317632" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1317632 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1317632_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Runscott</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=860">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=860" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Runscott</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=860" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Runscott</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1317632 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1317632 -' + '->';
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Just because players who hit a certain number of home runs made the HOF, doesn\'t mean they would have done so if their batting average had sucked.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nDavid - I\'m not trying to be contentious here.  I think that Dunn\'s batting average could suck, but there could be other things he does, above and beyond what the other 500+ guys did, that could make up for it.  For example, if he was a great-fielding second-baseman, or stole bases and scored a lot of runs.  I think his OBP is worth considering, but I don\'t think that\'s enough.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I totally agree Scott...By the way, what is Dunn\'s career batting avg? I did not look it up before this post. Again, my argument is what has this guy done (even mediocre), other than hitting home runs? 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I think his OBP is worth considering, but I don\'t think that\'s enough.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Well that\'s where we disagree, and that is certianly fine.  I think 500 HR is enough to get anyone elected to the Hall, regardless of anything else (assuming they didn\'t use PEDs).  What you\'re saying above is, that if Dunn had 500HR and some other skill set to accompany it, then he could be considered for the HOF.  Other players have gotten into the HOF having been known for just one skill.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nSpeaking of great fielders, look at Ozzie Smith.  He sure didn\'t get in on his offensive numbers.  He was known as a great defensive player - look at all the Gold Gloves.  What did he do offensively?  Not jack!  He\'s has 2460 hits, only 28 career home runs, 793 RBIs, a .262 lifetime batting average.  Had he been just a mediocre third baseman defensively, he would not be in the HOF.  In other words, he got in ONLY on his defensive skills.  He was a one trick pony.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI realize we\'re talking about 2 different position players, but my point is this.  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I think 500 HR is enough to get anyone elected to the Hall, regardless of anything else (assuming they didn\'t use PEDs).  What you\'re saying above is, that if Dunn had 500HR and some other skill set to accompany it, then he could be considered for the HOF.  Other players have gotten into the HOF having been known for just one skill.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nSpeaking of great fielders, look at Ozzie Smith.  He sure didn\'t get in on his offensive numbers.  He was known as a great defensive player - look at all the Gold Gloves.  What did he do offensively?  Not jack!  He\'s has 2460 hits, only 28 career home runs, 793 RBIs, a .262 lifetime batting average.  Had he been just a mediocre third baseman defensively, he would not be in the HOF.  In other words, he got in ONLY on his defensive skills.  He was a one trick pony.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI realize we\'re talking about 2 different position players, but my point is this.  Why does Smith get in with only one set of skills, but not Dunn?</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>How much higher was Smith\'s BA vs. Dunn? 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Just curious...Again, I have never seen a player strike out at the rate Dunn does...</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>The BA doesn\'t matter because I wasn\'t comparing their careers against each other.  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I was merely pointing out that both Dunn and Smith were each only know for just one thing.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI think that the steroid era has minimized or cheapened the home run, especially with players like Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, etc.  Had Dunn accomplished another important milestone instead of 500 HR (which I know he\'s not there yet), say like 3000 hits, I really don\'t think we would even be having this discussion and most everyone would agree that he was a future HOFer based on 3000 hits.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I agree David, but he\'s a shitty hitter. He\'s probably 6\'7", 285 lbs., if he just makes contact he\'s going to hit home runs. How many K\'s has this guy had in his career? 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I think 500 HR is enough to get anyone elected to the Hall, regardless of anything else (assuming they didn\'t use PEDs).  What you\'re saying above is, that if Dunn had 500HR and some other skill set to accompany it, then he could be considered for the HOF.  Other players have gotten into the HOF having been known for just one skill.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nSpeaking of great fielders, look at Ozzie Smith.  He sure didn\'t get in on his offensive numbers.  He was known as a great defensive player - look at all the Gold Gloves.  What did he do offensively?  Not jack!  He\'s has 2460 hits, only 28 career home runs, 793 RBIs, a .262 lifetime batting average.  Had he been just a mediocre third baseman defensively, he would not be in the HOF.  In other words, he got in ONLY on his defensive skills.  He was a one trick pony.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI realize we\'re talking about 2 different position players, but my point is this.  Why does Smith get in with only one set of skills, but not Dunn?</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I don\'t know - I wouldn\'t have voted for Smith either.  But since we are talking about HR\'s and your claim that 500 is enough, what is the problem with comparing Dunn to other guys who have 500 and are in the HOF?  Seems like a logical comparison that is being avoided.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nIf you want to change the conversation to comparing Dunn to Ozzie Smith, that\'s fine, but his skills don\'t in any way compare to Dunn\'s.  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But let\'s say this isn\'t Dunn\'s last year.  Let\'s say he goes on to play 3 more years and averages 30 HRs a year and finishes his career with around 550 HRs.  Is he a HOFer then?</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Just curious, would you put Dunn in the Hall instead of someone like Dale Murphy? Home runs are not everything. This guy\'s career batting average can\'t be a lot higher than .220, and he strikes out at a ratio of more than anyone I have ever seen. Defensively, I\'ve never heard much about him either. 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Home runs are not everything. This guy\'s career batting average can\'t be a lot higher than .220, and he strikes out at a ratio of more than anyone I have ever seen. Defensively, I\'ve never heard much about him either. So, it\'s home runs and that\'s it?</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Because, as mentioned above, there used to be a number (500) of homeruns that a player could hit and automatically make the HOF.  I believe that still exists.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI don\'t believe that same number will be used to measure players that used PEDs.  But for players that didn\'t use PEDs (and I truly belive Dunn has not), I believe that is still the magic number.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI believe that <b>any</b> player that hits 500 HRs and is not associated with PEDs should automatically make the HOF regardless of any other statistics.  If you disagree, that is fine.  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I believe that still exists.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI don\'t believe that same number will be used to measure players that used PEDs.  But for players that didn\'t use PEDs (and I truly belive Dunn has not), I believe that is still the magic number.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI believe that <b>any</b> player that hits 500 HRs and is not associated with PEDs should automatically make the HOF regardless of any other statistics.  If you disagree, that is fine.  That\'s just my opinion.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Until now, almost every player with that many HR was also a good HITTER.  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But let\'s say this isn\'t Dunn\'s last year.  Let\'s say he goes on to play 3 more years and averages 30 HRs a year and finishes his career with around 550 HRs.  Is he a HOFer then?</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>No.<br />\n<br />\nI respect that you are an Adam Dunn fan. I think he\'s been a great power hitter, and I also think he\'s been more than just a power hitter with the walks he\'s taken. And I think if he reaches 500 home runs without taking any PEDs in an era when many did, he is to be commended.<br />\n<br />\nBut I still don\'t think he\'s a Hall of Famer. If he manages to hit 500 home runs, he did it by being one of the top home run hitters in the Majors for quite some time. But he was never the <i>best</i> home run hitter. He never led the American league in runs, home runs, RBI, average, slugging average, OBP, or OPS. Not once. In 14 seasons, he never led his league in any of the premier hitting metrics. <br />\n<br />\nHe\'s never won an MVP. But not only has he not won an MVP, he\'s never finished in the top 5 of any MVP vote. He\'s never finished in the top 10, or the top 15, or even the top 20 of <i>any</i> MVP vote. His best finish in an MVP race was 21st in 2010. That means every single one of the fourteen years he played, the Baseball Writers thought there were at least 20 other players in the American League...not even in all of baseball, but just in the American League, that were better than Adam Dunn.<br />\n<br />\nAdam Dunn has never won a Silver Slugger. That means he was never even the best power hitter at his <i>position</i> in the American League. There was always somebody better. <br />\n<br />\nThere just isn\'t anything remarkable about Dunn\'s career. He gets points for longevity, and consistency. <br />\n<br />\nI am a baseball fanatic. I watch 100 games at least every year. I watch the races. I read the newspaper. I subscribe to Baseball America, and MLB.tv, and watch the MLB channel religiously. At no time in the near decade and a half since Adam Dunn has been a Major Leaguer did I consider him a superstar, or Hall of Fame worthy. Again, he walks more than people probably were aware of. But besides the walks, Dunn is a home run hitter with a nearly 35% career strikeout rate. There isn\'t anything more to him. <br />\n<br />\nYou know how many 30 home run seasons there have been between 2001 and 2014?<br />\n<br />\n371<br />\n<br />\nHitting 30 home runs is good. It is nothing special, however. <br />\n<br />\nWhat about 40 home run seasons? <br />\n<br />\nThere have been 83 40 home run seasons between 2001 and 2014. Ok, that\'s, of course, tougher to do. Dunn appears on this list six times. Dunn\'s best season is good for 33rd on the list of best individual home run seasons since 2001. There have been 13 seasons of 50 or more home runs.<br />\n<br />\nBut typically, people that hit a lot of home runs and make the Hall of Fame did other things well. Mays and Aaron, Ruth, Frank Robinson, Mike Schmidt, Jimmie Foxx, Willie McCovey, Ted Williams, Ernie Banks, Eddie Matthews, Ken Griffey Jr, Barry Bonds. The other guys were great hitters. Some were elite fielders. Most of them were the best players in baseball at least once or twice in their career.<br />\n<br />\nDunn never finished in the top 20 of any MVP vote!<br />\n<br />\nAdam Dunn should, and will be remembered as a great power hitter. But he wasn\'t, at least in my educated opinion, an elite baseball player. He could hit the ball out of the park. 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Although it was a hypothetical question (but a realistic possibility), I thought it was a valid question.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nYou may be right, 550 HRs may not be enough to get him into Cooperstown, who knows?  But regardless of all his other stats (low BA, all the SO, etc), <u>there has to be a point where they have to let him in just because of the number of home runs overshadows all the other stats</u>.  For example if he ends up playing another 5 years (puts him at 39 years old - again a realistic possibility) averaging 30 HRs a year, he would end up in the ballpark of 600 HRs.  I don\'t think you can keep him out at that point, I don\'t care if his BA drops to .200 and he SO on every 4/5 ABs.  600 HR is HOF worthy no matter what (again not considering PED issues) in my opinion.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI get what you\'re saying about no MVP, SS, GG, etc.  But there are other players in the HOF that never one any of those titles either.  Look at Nolan Ryan.  He never won a CY, won only 20 or more games twice in his 27 years, an ERA title only once and lost more games than he won 7 years.  Yeah, he won 324 games in his career, but when you consider he played for 27 years, that\'s only 12 wins a year.  He never had any of the accolades that you\'re (and others) saying Dunn never had.  Don\'t get me wrong, I love Ryan and think he is great.  We\'re from the same home town and I even played ball with his oldest son.  But all I\'m saying is that all of these titles you\'re (and others) saying Dunn has never won, well the same can be said for many HOFers.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nRegards,<br />\r\n<br />\r\nDavid<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>the \'stache</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=1318645#post1318645" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">No.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI respect that you are an Adam Dunn fan. I think he\'s been a great power hitter, and I also think he\'s been more than just a power hitter with the walks he\'s taken. And I think if he reaches 500 home runs without taking any PEDs in an era when many did, he is to be commended.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nBut I still don\'t think he\'s a Hall of Famer. If he manages to hit 500 home runs, he did it by being one of the top home run hitters in the Majors for quite some time. But he was never the <i>best</i> home run hitter. He never led the American league in runs, home runs, RBI, average, slugging average, OBP, or OPS. Not once. In 14 seasons, he never led his league in any of the premier hitting metrics. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nHe\'s never won an MVP. But not only has he not won an MVP, he\'s never finished in the top 5 of any MVP vote. He\'s never finished in the top 10, or the top 15, or even the top 20 of <i>any</i> MVP vote. His best finish in an MVP race was 21st in 2010. That means every single one of the fourteen years he played, the Baseball Writers thought there were at least 20 other players in the American League...not even in all of baseball, but just in the American League, that were better than Adam Dunn.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAdam Dunn has never won a Silver Slugger. That means he was never even the best power hitter at his <i>position</i> in the American League. There was always somebody better. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nThere just isn\'t anything remarkable about Dunn\'s career. He gets points for longevity, and consistency. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI am a baseball fanatic. I watch 100 games at least every year. I watch the races. I read the newspaper. I subscribe to Baseball America, and MLB.tv, and watch the MLB channel religiously. At no time in the near decade and a half since Adam Dunn has been a Major Leaguer did I consider him a superstar, or Hall of Fame worthy. Again, he walks more than people probably were aware of. But besides the walks, Dunn is a home run hitter with a nearly 35% career strikeout rate. There isn\'t anything more to him. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nYou know how many 30 home run seasons there have been between 2001 and 2014?<br />\r\n<br />\r\n371<br />\r\n<br />\r\nHitting 30 home runs is good. It is nothing special, however. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nWhat about 40 home run seasons? <br />\r\n<br />\r\nThere have been 83 40 home run seasons between 2001 and 2014. Ok, that\'s, of course, tougher to do. Dunn appears on this list six times. Dunn\'s best season is good for 33rd on the list of best individual home run seasons since 2001. There have been 13 seasons of 50 or more home runs.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nBut typically, people that hit a lot of home runs and make the Hall of Fame did other things well. Mays and Aaron, Ruth, Frank Robinson, Mike Schmidt, Jimmie Foxx, Willie McCovey, Ted Williams, Ernie Banks, Eddie Matthews, Ken Griffey Jr, Barry Bonds. The other guys were great hitters. Some were elite fielders. Most of them were the best players in baseball at least once or twice in their career.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nDunn never finished in the top 20 of any MVP vote!<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAdam Dunn should, and will be remembered as a great power hitter. But he wasn\'t, at least in my educated opinion, an elite baseball player. He could hit the ball out of the park. 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He played for so many bad teams. I\'d be willing to bet he was on more losing teams than winning ones. Maybe I\'ll look at that later tonight. But some of the best pitchers today, like Felix Hernandez and Clayton Kershaw, only have a few 20 win seasons between them, and that\'s not because of anything they\'ve done. A great pitcher can win fewer games than a good pitcher if that good pitcher has a great defense, and a really potent offense behind them. In 1987, Nolan Ryan led the National League with a 2.87 ERA, in strikeouts, in Fip, in strikeouts per 9 innings pitched, in K:BB ratio, and ERA +. But he was 8-16. Those numbers don\'t reconcile in my brain. <img src="forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Stick Out Tongue" class="inlineimg" /><br />\r\n<br />\r\nRyan has more strikeouts, and more no hitters than anybody in history, and really, there\'s nobody close to either figure. He has an 839 strikeout lead, and the guy he leads is retired. And the nearest active strikeout pitcher is more than 3,300 strikeouts behind Ryan. And while Dunn didn\'t lead in any major category, Ryan led his league in strikeouts 11 times, and ERA twice. He holds the single season strikeout record, too, with 383. And he never won a Cy Young, but he finished in the top 5 in Cy Young voting six times. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nAlso, his 6.6 hits per 9 innings pitched is the best ever. And he did that while pitching 5,386 innings. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI don\'t know what Adam Dunn would have to do to get in. I don\'t think there\'s anything he can do. Even if he hit 600 home runs, I don\'t think he gets in. He\'s playing in an era where home runs are plentiful. His one claim to fame is home runs, but he\'s never been the best at it. Every year, there was at least one guy better than him. He finished second in the league in home runs three times. Third once. Fourth twice. Fifth twice. So again, he was pretty good, but never the best. If he were a big time run producer, that might be a little easier to overlook. But he\'s not even that great an RBI guy. He\'s hit 462 homers, and driven in 1,162 runs. He\'s driven in 700 other base runners besides himself. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nIf you look at the first two 500 home run guys he\'ll meet if he gets to 500, here\'s how they\'ll match up RBI-wise.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAdam Dunn 462 home runs, 1,162* RBI<br />\r\nEddie Murray 504 home runs, 1,917 RBI<br />\r\nGary Sheffield 509 home runs, 1,676 RBI<br />\r\n<br />\r\nSay Dunn plays one more year, hits 38 home runs, and drives in 100 RBI. He\'s at 1,262. He\'s 414 RBI behind Sheffield, and 655 behind Murray. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nDunn\'s best RBI seasons are as follows:<br />\r\n106 RBI 2007<br />\r\n105 RBI 2009<br />\r\n103 RBI 2010<br />\r\n102 RBI 2004<br />\r\n101 RBI 2005<br />\r\n100 RBI 2008<br />\r\n<br />\r\nWhy are his RBI totals so low? Adam Dunn is a career .225 hitter with runners in scoring position. He is a .229 career hitter in high leverage situations. He is a career .237 hitter in medium leverage situations, and a .242 career hitter in low leverage situations. You want your power hitters to perform well in high leverage situations. <br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>vintagetoppsguy</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=1318701#post1318701" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Bill,<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThank you for taking the time to answer my question while others overlooked it.  Although it was a hypothetical question (but a realistic possibility), I thought it was a valid question.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nYou may be right, 550 HRs may not be enough to get him into Cooperstown, who knows?  But regardless of all his other stats (low BA, all the SO, etc), <u>there has to be a point where they have to let him in just because of the number of home runs overshadows all the other stats</u>.  For example if he ends up playing another 5 years (puts him at 39 years old - again a realistic possibility) averaging 30 HRs a year, he would end up in the ballpark of 600 HRs.  I don\'t think you can keep him out at that point, I don\'t care if his BA drops to .200 and he SO on every 4/5 ABs.  600 HR is HOF worthy no matter what (again not considering PED issues) in my opinion.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI get what you\'re saying about no MVP, SS, GG, etc.  But there are other players in the HOF that never one any of those titles either.  Look at Nolan Ryan.  He never won a CY, won only 20 or more games twice in his 27 years, an ERA title only once and lost more games than he won 7 years.  Yeah, he won 324 games in his career, but when you consider he played for 27 years, that\'s only 12 wins a year.  He never had any of the accolades that you\'re (and others) saying Dunn never had.  Don\'t get me wrong, I love Ryan and think he is great.  We\'re from the same home town and I even played ball with his oldest son.  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My comments meant to show that you don\'t have to have all the titles that everyone keeps referring to (Silver Slugger, MVP, Golded Glove, Cy Young or whatever) to be a HOFer.  There are plenty of guys in the HOF w/o any of those awards.  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My comments meant to show that you don\'t have to have all the titles that everyone keeps referring to (Silver Slugger, MVP, Golded Glove, Cy Young or whatever) to be a HOFer.  There are plenty of guys in the HOF w/o any of those awards.  Ryan was just one example.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I compare Nolan Ryan with Clint Eastwood.  Nolan Ryan doesn\'t have all the awards because he spent the first part of his career entertaining us by throwing hard and raking up strike-outs, but he eventually became a better pitcher, showing more finesse, and I think that made up for the earlier years that were dominated by his strikeout stats....and he created his own award: the "7 no-hitters" award.  Not sure Ryan would have made the HOF if he had sputtered out at the same time Carlton did.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nEastwood spent the early part of his career making spaghetti westerns and Dirty Harry movies - very entertaining and making a name for himself (like Ryan\'s strikeout years with the Angels), but not Oscar-worthy stuff.  Like Ryan, he aged well and grew in the latter part of his career, taking some roles that showed that he had some acting skills, and becoming a good enough director. 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Nolan Ryan doesn\'t have all the awards because he spent the first part of his career entertaining us by throwing hard and raking up strike-outs, but he eventually became a better pitcher, showing more finesse, and I think that made up for the earlier years that were dominated by his strikeout stats....and he created his own award: the "7 no-hitters" award.  Not sure Ryan would have made the HOF if he had sputtered out at the same time Carlton did.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nEastwood spent the early part of his career making spaghetti westerns and Dirty Harry movies - very entertaining and making a name for himself (like Ryan\'s strikeout years with the Angels), but not Oscar-worthy stuff.  Like Ryan, he aged well and grew in the latter part of his career, taking some roles that showed that he had some acting skills, and becoming a good enough director. Now he\'s definitely movie-HOF worthy, but he\'s no Marlon Brando, just as Ryan is no Mathewson.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>He walked 4.7 batters per nine innings.  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With better control, we would be comparing him to Mathewson.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>An interesting thing about Ryan is that it wasn\'t just about control. A lot of it was his mentality. As Bill James has commented, Ryan\'s mentality was that no matter what the count, he refused to give hitters anything decent to hit. He would rather walk someone than give in and lay one over the plate. The result is pretty much what you\'d expect for someone with great stuff and that mentality - lots of Ks, lots of BBs, and lots of no hitters. 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A lot of it was his mentality. As Bill James has commented, Ryan\'s mentality was that no matter what the count, he refused to give hitters anything decent to hit. He would rather walk someone than give in and lay one over the plate. The result is pretty much what you\'d expect for someone with great stuff and that mentality - lots of Ks, lots of BBs, and lots of no hitters. And lots of wins and lots of losses.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Not sure where you deduced anything other than "lots of BBs", unless it was from reading the stats in MLB Ref.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				<font size="2"><font color="Black">$co++ Forre$+ </font> </font>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=1318804" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 1318804 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_1318804_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Runscott</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=860">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=860" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Runscott</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=860" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Runscott</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 1318804 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #1318804 -' + '->';
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It was not a Dunn-Ryan comparison.  It was meant to show that one doesn\'t have to win certain awards to be inducted into the HOF.  Earlier in the thread, several people mentioned that Dunn never won a MVP, etc., and therefore that was one of the reasons that he wouldn\'t be considered for the HOF.  Ryan was mentioned (I could have used several other players to make my point, he just came to mind first) because he too never won an individual award (e.g. Cy Young), but it didn\'t keep him from the HOF.  <br />\n<br />\nMy whole point is that one doesn\'t have to win a GG, SS, MVP, Cy Young, ROY, etc, to make the HOF.  I simply made my point with Ryan, again it could have been one of many other players instead.  If you still don\'t get my point, then maybe it\'s my fault.  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It was not a Dunn-Ryan comparison.  It was meant to show that one doesn\'t have to win certain awards to be inducted into the HOF.  Earlier in the thread, several people mentioned that Dunn never won a MVP, etc., and therefore that was one of the reasons that he wouldn\'t be considered for the HOF.  Ryan was mentioned (I could have used several other players to make my point, he just came to mind first) because he too never won an individual award (e.g. Cy Young), but it didn\'t keep him from the HOF.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nMy whole point is that one doesn\'t have to win a GG, SS, MVP, Cy Young, ROY, etc, to make the HOF.  I simply made my point with Ryan, again it could have been one of many other players instead.  If you still don\'t get my point, then maybe it\'s my fault.  Maybe I\'m not explaining it well.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>David - you have brought up two HOF\'ers (Ryan and Ozzie) during a discussion of whether or not Dunn is worthy.  If you aren\'t comparing him to either of these guys, then please find a current HOF\'er to actually compare him to.  The Adam Dunn total package is lacking.  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Bergin</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=1319003#post1319003" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Jeez, if a guy like Jeff Bagwell can\'t get much more then 50% of the vote, I really can\'t see Dunn getting the benefit of the doubt, even if he all of a sudden has a historical resurgence and ends up with 700 HR\'s.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nIf players like Dick Allen, Albert Belle, Frank Howard, Alan Trammell, Lou Whitaker, Dale Murphy can\'t even come close to sniffing the Hall, then Dunn won\'t get out of the first year of eligibility.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI remember guys belly-aching on here when Jim Rice got in, and he was the premier power hitter in the AL for nearly a decade.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I think the reason that Dunn is being argued is that if he continues his career, he may pass the 500 HR plateau.  Previously, 500 HR\'s was a lock for the HOF, similar to 300 wins or 3000 hits.  However, b/c of Dunn\'s historically low batting average and lack of MVP vote credentials, he would be one of the hitters that really would be stretching this milestone number.  For the other hitters that were mentioned, either they have had some suspicion of PED use or they never hit the 500 HR number.  I\'m pretty sure most people believe that Dunn is clean especially b/c of his batting average number.  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Previously, 500 HR\'s was a lock for the HOF, similar to 300 wins or 3000 hits.  However, b/c of Dunn\'s historically low batting average and lack of MVP vote credentials, he would be one of the hitters that really would be stretching this milestone number.  For the other hitters that were mentioned, either they have had some suspicion of PED use or they never hit the 500 HR number.  I\'m pretty sure most people believe that Dunn is clean especially b/c of his batting average number.  He\'s like a Dave Kingman as others have mentioned.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Gary, I\'ve said it before but I think you missed it: the statement that 500 HR\'s is a lock for the HOF is FAILED LOGIC.  \'500 HRs\' is not why these guys got into the HOF - it is only part of it.  The guys with 500 HR\'s did a lot more than just hit 500 HR\'s.  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Yet McGwire was able to do it while having a BA of .263 compared to Dunn\'s BA of .238 (this includes a horrible .159 in 2011).<br />\r\n<br />\r\nDunn did nothing to help in the field, Rpos -109 and his Batting just wasn\'t enough (Rbat= 218 [with a -27 in 2011, and only 10 seasons with 10 or more runs above average from batting).  His horrible fielding combined with his mediocre batting put him -80 RAA, that is runs below the average player in his career.  He also has a negative WAA replacement number at -9.2.  There were 9 seasons were he was in the negative for RAA, and only one full season where he was above 10 (2004 with 27).<br />\r\n<br />\r\nIf a player is providing less runs for his team for most of his career rather than adding them he really shouldn\'t be in the HOF.  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So the question is, what does the word "overall" mean. It either means (a) his overall career stats, in other words, the number of great years where he hit a lot of homers, or (b) his overall skillset (his game apart from homers and doubles and walks). Since I conceded in my original post that he had not had enough great seasons, it seemed that you had to be arguing that his overall skillset was not HOF-worthy, not that he hadn\'t had enough great years. In which case, you are saying that averaging 40 homers, 35 doubles, and 100 walks a year (Dunn during his prime) does not make you a Hall of Famer if the rest of your overall performance is unexceptional. Which is a perfectly legitimate point of view. 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pn[1318841] = "1318835,1318855";
pn[1318855] = "1318841,1318877";
pn[1318877] = "1318855,1319003";
pn[1319003] = "1318877,1319004";
pn[1319004] = "1319003,1319035";
pn[1319035] = "1319004,1319073";
pn[1319073] = "1319035,1319376";
pn[1319376] = "1319073,1318758";
pn[1318758] = "1319376,1317544";
pn[1317544] = "1318758,1317594";
pn[1317594] = "1317544,1317631";
pn[1317631] = "1317594,1317635";
pn[1317635] = "1317631,1317605";
pn[1317605] = "1317635,1317629";
pn[1317629] = "1317605,1317400";
pn[1317400] = "1317629,1317370";
pn[1317370] = "1317400,1317222";
pn[1317222] = "1317370,1317224";
pn[1317224] = "1317222,1317235";
pn[1317235] = "1317224,1317688";
pn[1317688] = "1317235,1317696";
pn[1317696] = "1317688,1317709";
pn[1317709] = "1317696,1317716";
pn[1317716] = "1317709,1318195";
pn[1318195] = "1317716,1318231";
pn[1318231] = "1318195,1317698";
pn[1317698] = "1318231,1318196";
pn[1318196] = "1317698,1324150";
pn[1324150] = "1318196,1324152";
pn[1324152] = "1324150,1324154";
pn[1324154] = "1324152,1324287";
pn[1324287] = "1324154,1324293";
pn[1324293] = "1324287,1324347";
pn[1324347] = "1324293,1324358";
pn[1324358] = "1324347,1324414";
pn[1324414] = "1324358,1325008";
pn[1325008] = "1324414,1325052";
pn[1325052] = "1325008,1324151";
pn[1324151] = "1325052,1324153";
pn[1324153] = "1324151,1324160";
pn[1324160] = "1324153,1324180";
pn[1324180] = "1324160,1324186";
pn[1324186] = "1324180,1324198";
pn[1324198] = "1324186,1324199";
pn[1324199] = "1324198,1324213";
pn[1324213] = "1324199,1325538";
pn[1325538] = "1324213,1329100";
pn[1329100] = "1325538,1316750";

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pu[0] = guestphrase;
pu[122563] = "HOF Auto Rookies";
pu[14520] = "Luke";
pu[83] = "Jay Wolt";
pu[507] = "MacDice";
pu[1103] = "jimivintage";
pu[395] = "pclpads";
pu[78877] = "itjclarke";
pu[423] = "caramelcard";
pu[34104] = "UnVme7";
pu[57] = "batsballsbases";
pu[364] = "sbfinley";
pu[458] = "chris6net";
pu[43] = "Peter_Spaeth";
pu[324528] = "Lgarza99";
pu[3880] = "vintagetoppsguy";
pu[208520] = "EvilKing00";
pu[215430] = "Bored5000";
pu[4152] = "ctownboy";
pu[459480] = "ooo-ribay";
pu[539075] = "clydepepper";
pu[386] = "packs";
pu[574806] = "HalChaseCollector";
pu[4993] = "quinnsryche";
pu[216655] = "the \\\'stache";
pu[265] = "chaddurbin";
pu[860] = "Runscott";
pu[38] = "calvindog";
pu[61] = "nolemmings";
pu[181606] = "KCRfan1";
pu[125565] = "vthobby";
pu[48248] = "BengoughingForAwhile";
pu[262] = "D. Bergin";
pu[30169] = "ejharrington";
pu[545] = "timn1";
pu[565837] = "Mountaineer1999";
pu[270] = "Brian Van Horn";
pu[119288] = "pbspelly";
pu[331514] = "PM770";
pu[12484] = "CMIZ5290";
pu[11009] = "jhs5120";
pu[474242] = "Centauri";
pu[195855] = "cubsfan-budman";
pu[35763] = "ls7plus";
pu[8906] = "brob28";
pu[304] = "glynparson";
pu[140090] = "bn2cardz";
pu[10106] = "glchen";
pu[565401] = "Davino";
pu[20] = "sportscardtheory";
pu[319] = "sayhey24";
pu[487] = "Dan Carson";
pu[203647] = "Eric72";
pu[198459] = "icollectDCsports";
pu[321] = "howard38";
pu[85] = "jcmtiger";
pu[192763] = "wolf441";
pu[13680] = "Tabe";
pu[9529] = "sago";
pu[463] = "jbbama";
pu[577439] = "rats60";
pu[572562] = "Econteachert205";
pu[77124] = "Paul S";
pu[474261] = "CurtisFlood";
pu[239] = "perezfan";
pu[344] = "RichardSimon";

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  writeLink(1316754, 0, 0, 14520, "T", "<i>Yeah, he did.  By hitting .210</i>", "08-31-2014", "03:55 PM", 0);
  writeLink(1316755, 0, 0, 83, "T", "<i>Don't think Dunn w/ or w/o...</i>", "08-31-2014", "03:55 PM", 0);
    writeLink(1316757, 0, 0, 507, "I,T", "<i>This generations Dave Kingman.</i>", "08-31-2014", "04:03 PM", 0);
      writeLink(1316759, 0, 0, 395, "I,I,T", "<i>. . . or Crime Dog</i>", "08-31-2014", "04:15 PM", 0);
        writeLink(1316760, 0, 0, 78877, "I,I,I,L", "<i>Crime Dog?????  Crime dog was...</i>", "08-31-2014", "04:19 PM", 0);
          writeLink(1316768, 0, 0, 423, "I,I,I,1,T", "<i>McGriff is close.  Dunn is...</i>", "08-31-2014", "04:38 PM", 0);
          writeLink(1316769, 0, 0, 0, "I,I,I,1,L", "", "more", "", 0);
      writeLink(1316791, 0, 0, 458, "I,I,L", "<i>Kingman was a much better...</i>", "08-31-2014", "06:01 PM", 0);
        writeLink(1316799, 0, 0, 43, "I,I,1,L", "<i>He is better than his batting...</i>", "08-31-2014", "06:16 PM", 0);
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    writeLink(1316758, 0, 0, 1103, "I,L", "<i>I've personally never looked...</i>", "08-31-2014", "04:03 PM", 0);
  writeLink(1316777, 0, 0, 57, "T", "<i>You have to be kidding! Even...</i>", "08-31-2014", "05:05 PM", 0);
    writeLink(1316780, 0, 0, 364, "I,T", "<i>Strikeouts are overrated, an...</i>", "08-31-2014", "05:14 PM", 0);
      writeLink(1316843, 0, 0, 459480, "I,I,L", "<i>Not really. A strikeout can't...</i>", "08-31-2014", "07:52 PM", 0);
        writeLink(1316849, 0, 0, 539075, "I,I,1,T", "<i>I totally agree - check out...</i>", "08-31-2014", "08:07 PM", 0);
        writeLink(1316855, 0, 0, 43, "I,I,1,L", "<i>If Dunn had struck out less,...</i>", "08-31-2014", "08:19 PM", 0);
          writeLink(1316884, 0, 0, 459480, "I,I,2,L", "<i>Isn't that a Yogism?....if...</i>", "08-31-2014", "09:03 PM", 0);
    writeLink(1316832, 0, 0, 122563, "I,L", "OT: Did Adam Dunn ruin his...", "08-31-2014", "07:26 PM", 0);
      writeLink(1316834, 0, 0, 215430, "I,1,T", "<i>Doesn't Ray Schalk have the...</i>", "08-31-2014", "07:30 PM", 0);
      writeLink(1316980, 0, 0, 57, "I,1,L", "<i>Right there in your first...</i>", "08-31-2014", "11:58 PM", 0);
  writeLink(1316816, 0, 0, 208520, "T", "<i>Dunn isnt a hof imo</i>", "08-31-2014", "07:02 PM", 0);
    writeLink(1316838, 0, 0, 4152, "I,L", "<i>The ONLY way Dunn gets into...</i>", "08-31-2014", "07:44 PM", 0);
  writeLink(1316829, 0, 0, 122563, "T", "OT: Did Adam Dunn ruin his...", "08-31-2014", "07:21 PM", 0);
    writeLink(1316835, 0, 0, 3880, "I,L", "<i>Currently 5th in active home...</i>", "08-31-2014", "07:32 PM", 0);
      writeLink(1316853, 0, 0, 43, "I,1,L", "<i>Hall Of Fame StatisticsPlayer...</i>", "08-31-2014", "08:15 PM", 0);
  writeLink(1316857, 0, 0, 122563, "T", "<i>I don't care if he makes it,...</i>", "08-31-2014", "08:26 PM", 0);
    writeLink(1316866, 0, 0, 539075, "I,T", "<i>I just can't wait to see him...</i>", "08-31-2014", "08:37 PM", 0);
    writeLink(1316867, 0, 0, 4152, "I,T", "<i>Peter - Spaeth, \n \nI beg to...</i>", "08-31-2014", "08:39 PM", 0);
    writeLink(1316981, 0, 0, 57, "I,L", "<i>Just because hes a Great...</i>", "09-01-2014", "12:05 AM", 0);
      writeLink(1316995, 0, 0, 122563, "I,1,L", "<i>You still are struggling...</i>", "09-01-2014", "02:32 AM", 0);
        writeLink(1316998, 0, 0, 14520, "I,2,T", "<i>I think you'd have a hard...</i>", "09-01-2014", "02:56 AM", 0);
          writeLink(1317023, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,T", "<i>&quot;Quote: \nOriginally Posted by...</i>", "09-01-2014", "08:13 AM", 0);
          writeLink(1317037, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,L", "<i>Or 3000 hits, see Craig...</i>", "09-01-2014", "08:39 AM", 0);
        writeLink(1317029, 0, 0, 57, "I,2,L", "<i>Yes your right 500 HRs was...</i>", "09-01-2014", "08:24 AM", 0);
  writeLink(1316918, 0, 0, 574806, "T", "<i>He wouldn't have a chance...</i>", "08-31-2014", "09:59 PM", 0);
    writeLink(1316952, 0, 0, 4993, "I,L", "<i>As a die hard White Sox fan,...</i>", "08-31-2014", "10:46 PM", 0);
      writeLink(1316967, 0, 0, 3880, "I,1,L", "<i>If he's so bad, why would a...</i>", "08-31-2014", "11:28 PM", 0);
        writeLink(1317136, 0, 0, 4993, "I,2,T", "<i>Because they are sinking like...</i>", "09-01-2014", "12:15 PM", 0);
          writeLink(1317153, 0, 0, 386, "I,2,I,T", "<i>I don't know about that. To...</i>", "09-01-2014", "12:49 PM", 0);
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        writeLink(1317189, 0, 0, 860, "I,2,T", "<i>I think they were desperate...</i>", "09-01-2014", "02:03 PM", 0);
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          writeLink(1317194, 0, 0, 3880, "I,2,I,L", "<i>I think so too, Scott.   \n...</i>", "09-01-2014", "02:28 PM", 0);
        writeLink(1317560, 0, 0, 331514, "I,2,L", "<i>August 31, 2014: Traded by...</i>", "09-02-2014", "03:05 PM", 0);
  writeLink(1317200, 0, 0, 181606, "T", "<i>Brent, do you believe Dunn is...</i>", "09-01-2014", "02:39 PM", 0);
    writeLink(1317202, 0, 0, 122563, "I,L", "<i>I do not believe he is a...</i>", "09-01-2014", "02:44 PM", 0);
      writeLink(1317219, 0, 0, 3880, "I,1,L", "<i>Congrats to Dunn on his first...</i>", "09-01-2014", "03:29 PM", 0);
        writeLink(1317246, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,L", "<i>It bears repeating.  The...</i>", "09-01-2014", "05:07 PM", 0);
          writeLink(1317268, 0, 0, 262, "I,3,L", "<i>Jeez, if Jeff Bagwell can't...</i>", "09-01-2014", "06:06 PM", 0);
            writeLink(1317282, 0, 0, 386, "I,4,L", "<i>Say what you will about his...</i>", "09-01-2014", "06:58 PM", 0);
              writeLink(1317287, 0, 0, 215430, "I,5,T", "<i>And none of those guys put up...</i>", "09-01-2014", "07:12 PM", 0);
              writeLink(1317310, 0, 0, 125565, "I,5,L", "<i>Hey Packs, since we are doing...</i>", "09-01-2014", "08:02 PM", 0);
                writeLink(1317318, 0, 0, 386, "I,6,L", "<i>I don't think he's a HOFer...</i>", "09-01-2014", "08:13 PM", 0);
                  writeLink(1317325, 0, 0, 30169, "I,7,L", "<i>Saying Dunn and Kingman do...</i>", "09-01-2014", "08:28 PM", 0);
                    writeLink(1317353, 0, 0, 545, "I,8,T", "Whoa! Never heard of OBP?", "09-01-2014", "09:21 PM", 0);
                      writeLink(1317368, 0, 0, 216655, "I,8,I,T", "<i>At one point, it looked like...</i>", "09-01-2014", "10:08 PM", 0);
                      writeLink(1317372, 0, 0, 216655, "I,8,I,L", "<i>While those numbers are...</i>", "09-01-2014", "10:20 PM", 0);
                        writeLink(1317377, 0, 0, 216655, "I,8,I,1,L", "<i>Here are those two reports I...</i>", "09-01-2014", "10:26 PM", 0);
                          writeLink(1317381, 0, 0, 565837, "I,8,I,2,L", "<i>Hits a bomb in first Oakland...</i>", "09-01-2014", "10:45 PM", 0);
                            writeLink(1317390, 0, 0, 545, "I,8,I,3,L", "Bill, I agree", "09-01-2014", "11:08 PM", 0);
                              writeLink(1317393, 0, 0, 4152, "I,8,I,4,T", "<i>Here is a simple fact;...</i>", "09-01-2014", "11:48 PM", 0);
                                writeLink(1317395, 0, 0, 270, "I,8,I,4,I,L", "<i>Dunn excelled at two things...</i>", "09-02-2014", "12:01 AM", 0);
                              writeLink(1317396, 0, 0, 216655, "I,8,I,4,T", "<i>Good post, Tim. \n \nWithin the...</i>", "09-02-2014", "12:10 AM", 0);
                                writeLink(1317397, 0, 0, 78877, "I,8,I,4,I,L", "<i>Perfectly said Bill.  I too...</i>", "09-02-2014", "12:21 AM", 0);
                                  writeLink(1317402, 0, 0, 216655, "I,8,I,4,I,1,L", "<i>Absolutely, Ian. And thank...</i>", "09-02-2014", "02:06 AM", 0);
                                    writeLink(1317444, 0, 0, 119288, "I,8,I,4,I,2,L", "<i>Not a Hall-of-Famer but he...</i>", "09-02-2014", "09:41 AM", 0);
                                      writeLink(1317468, 0, 0, 860, "I,8,I,4,I,3,L", "<i>Hopefully you are wrong, even...</i>", "09-02-2014", "11:16 AM", 0);
                                        writeLink(1317476, 0, 0, 386, "I,8,I,4,I,4,L", "<i>How does Steve Balboni...</i>", "09-02-2014", "11:45 AM", 0);
                                          writeLink(1317482, 0, 0, 860, "I,8,I,4,I,5,L", "<i>lol. \n \nThey are exactly...</i>", "09-02-2014", "11:53 AM", 0);
                                            writeLink(1317494, 0, 0, 3880, "I,8,I,4,I,6,L", "<i>Huh?  Balboni is 3 inches...</i>", "09-02-2014", "12:24 PM", 0);
                                              writeLink(1317496, 0, 0, 860, "I,8,I,4,I,7,L", "<i>David, I wasn't exaggerating...</i>", "09-02-2014", "12:28 PM", 0);
                                                writeLink(1317514, 0, 0, 119288, "I,8,I,4,I,8,L", "<i>I like the guy, but I don't...</i>", "09-02-2014", "01:44 PM", 0);
                                                  writeLink(1317517, 0, 0, 386, "I,8,I,4,I,9,T", "<i>I would add Reggie Jackson to...</i>", "09-02-2014", "01:50 PM", 0);
                                                    writeLink(1317546, 0, 0, 860, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,L", "<i>Also, I think it's great that...</i>", "09-02-2014", "02:45 PM", 0);
                                                  writeLink(1317527, 0, 0, 61, "I,8,I,4,I,9,T", "<i>Although I agree with your...</i>", "09-02-2014", "02:08 PM", 0);
                                                    writeLink(1317565, 0, 0, 3880, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,T", "<i>True, but Killebrew wasn't...</i>", "09-02-2014", "03:13 PM", 0);
                                                      writeLink(1317577, 0, 0, 43, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,I,T", "<i>:)So far, the tally: \n \nNot a...</i>", "09-02-2014", "03:37 PM", 0);
                                                        writeLink(1317586, 0, 0, 12484, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,I,I,L", "<i>101+, no way is Dunn a HOFer,...</i>", "09-02-2014", "03:50 PM", 0);
                                                          writeLink(1317596, 0, 0, 11009, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,I,I,1,L", "<i>I agree that Adam Dunn is not...</i>", "09-02-2014", "04:09 PM", 0);
                                                      writeLink(1317582, 0, 0, 61, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,I,L", "<i>Adam Dunn reached the 40 HR...</i>", "09-02-2014", "03:42 PM", 0);
                                                    writeLink(1317598, 0, 0, 119288, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,L", "<i>You may be correct. I didn't...</i>", "09-02-2014", "04:13 PM", 0);
                                                      writeLink(1317600, 0, 0, 3880, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,1,L", "Hypothetical Question", "09-02-2014", "04:21 PM", 0);
                                                        writeLink(1317604, 0, 0, 386, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,2,T", "<i>Dunn not making the cut...</i>", "09-02-2014", "04:35 PM", 0);
                                                          writeLink(1317632, 0, 0, 860, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,2,I,L", "<i>That's flawed logic.  Just...</i>", "09-02-2014", "05:31 PM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(1317639, 0, 0, 12484, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,2,I,1,T", "<i>I totally agree Scott...By...</i>", "09-02-2014", "05:42 PM", 0);
                                                              writeLink(1317648, 0, 0, 474242, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,2,I,1,I,L", "<i>Let me add a few comments: \n...</i>", "09-02-2014", "05:53 PM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(1317651, 0, 0, 3880, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,2,I,1,L", "<i>Well that's where we...</i>", "09-02-2014", "06:01 PM", 0);
                                                              writeLink(1317654, 0, 0, 12484, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,2,I,2,T", "<i>How much higher was Smith's...</i>", "09-02-2014", "06:18 PM", 0);
                                                                writeLink(1317655, 0, 0, 43, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,2,I,2,I,T", "<i>Ozzie had a sheetload of...</i>", "09-02-2014", "06:21 PM", 0);
                                                                writeLink(1317660, 0, 0, 3880, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,2,I,2,I,L", "<i>The BA doesn't matter because...</i>", "09-02-2014", "06:28 PM", 0);
                                                                  writeLink(1317673, 0, 0, 12484, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,2,I,2,I,1,L", "<i>I agree David, but he's a...</i>", "09-02-2014", "06:51 PM", 0);
                                                              writeLink(1317657, 0, 0, 860, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,2,I,2,L", "<i>I don't know - I wouldn't...</i>", "09-02-2014", "06:23 PM", 0);
                                                                writeLink(1317658, 0, 0, 860, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,2,I,3,L", "<i>Not trying to avoid...</i>", "09-02-2014", "06:25 PM", 0);
                                                        writeLink(1317621, 0, 0, 12484, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,2,T", "<i>Just curious, would you put...</i>", "09-02-2014", "05:06 PM", 0);
                                                          writeLink(1317625, 0, 0, 3880, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,2,I,L", "<i>Because, as mentioned above,...</i>", "09-02-2014", "05:18 PM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(1317652, 0, 0, 43, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,2,I,1,L", "<i>Until now, almost every...</i>", "09-02-2014", "06:04 PM", 0);
                                                        writeLink(1318645, 0, 0, 216655, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,2,L", "<i>No. \n \nI respect that you are...</i>", "09-05-2014", "01:34 AM", 0);
                                                          writeLink(1318701, 0, 0, 3880, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,3,L", "<i>Bill, \n \nThank you for taking...</i>", "09-05-2014", "08:05 AM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(1318715, 0, 0, 119288, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,4,T", "<i>The last two posts are, in my...</i>", "09-05-2014", "08:21 AM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(1318722, 0, 0, 216655, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,4,L", "<i>No problem, David. :) \n...</i>", "09-05-2014", "08:37 AM", 0);
                                                              writeLink(1318740, 0, 0, 43, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,5,L", "<i>I'm more in the Bill James...</i>", "09-05-2014", "09:37 AM", 0);
                                                                writeLink(1318750, 0, 0, 3880, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,6,T", "<i>I didn't mean for it to be an...</i>", "09-05-2014", "09:53 AM", 0);
                                                                  writeLink(1318752, 0, 0, 304, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,6,I,T", "I believe", "09-05-2014", "09:57 AM", 0);
                                                                  writeLink(1318757, 0, 0, 860, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,6,I,L", "<i>I compare Nolan Ryan with...</i>", "09-05-2014", "10:25 AM", 0);
                                                                    writeLink(1318761, 0, 0, 43, "I,8,I,4,I,9,I,6,I,1,L", "<i>He walked 4.7 batters per...</i>", "09-05-2014", "10:38 AM", 0);
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