MLB Glamor boys in 1st Playoffs

Runscott · #1 10-05-2014, 01:14 PM

One of the t.v. analysts said that it's been a conscious effort on Trout's part to hit more home runs. Interestingly, it's the exact opposite of what Cano seems to have done this year. Trout will probably be the MVP this year, so it's tough to argue with his approach.

I am surprised that he has been completely ineffective in his first two playoff games. He might be able to make up for it in future games, except for the problem of being down 0-2 and heading to Kansas City. This could be a long winter for Trout.

Runscott · #2 10-05-2014, 10:27 PM

Points to Trout for hitting a dinger with no score, thus sort of clutch. But 1 for 12 ?!?!?!

the 'stache · #3 10-06-2014, 02:32 AM

Well, it's his first post season, and he may be pressing a little.

Interesting points about Trout, David. I wonder, too, what his manager has asked him to do. Maybe where he is batting, and what he's been asked to do has an impact on his numbers more than we know. I just hope he cuts down on the strikeouts.

This season really shows just how incredible a player he is. The first two years, he beat teams with his legs. Getting on base, stealing, taking extra bases on his hits. Now he's beating teams with his power. If he can manage to do both going forward, he could be a 40-40 guy. Just an amazing talent, and it's frightening to think that he's only going to get better.

clydepepper · #4 10-06-2014, 09:18 AM

Certainly, Trout has caught long-ball fever. I think he is less dynamic a player because of it. He is walking back to the dugout far too many times.

OT, but related: Does anyone else see the amazing resemblance between Josh Hamilton's swing and Chris Davis's? I think they should compare notes and get back to dominating. Hamilton seems to be a good guy with demons- I hope he gets past that, unfortunately, his battle may be a lifelong one.

I wonder why no one ever questioned Pujols with concerns to PEDs. Maybe, I'm just too cynical.

Bill- I have trouble comparing Braun and Bonds with anyone since you never will know when what they accomplished started being 'assisted'. I can't look up power batting records anymore and think I'm getting an accurate description of who was the best. I do admit, at this point, to being totally hypocritical about it...I was INTO IT in 1998 when 'good guys' were doing it, but not in 2001 when a jerk did.

Comparing Harper to Mantle, on the other hand, may have good merit. When asked how often he swung for the fences, Mickey said 'Every time.'

I hope Harper doesn't become so enchanted with his power that he lets his overall game suffer the way Trout has.
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71buc · #5 10-06-2014, 09:20 AM

Harper is a fun player to watch. But I really don't believe he deserves to be in any conversation that includes Mike Trout. I have been hearing how good Harper will be since he was in high school. The reality is that the Nationals will be blessed if he ever becomes what Trout is now. Trout is one year older and more talented by light years both offensively and defensively. Statistically some may considered this to be a down year for Trout and it may still earn him the AL MVP. Trout is a once in a generation talent while Harper continues to develop. His potential is fascinating but no where near as interesting as Trout's. Nonetheless before we enshrine either of them in Cooperstown they both must prove themselves for many more years. Does anyone remember C�sar Cedeno?

Runscott · #6 10-06-2014, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 71buc

Harper is a fun player to watch. But I really don't believe he deserves to be in any conversation that includes Mike Trout. I have been hearing how good Harper will be since he was in high school. The reality is that the Nationals will be blessed if he ever becomes what Trout is now. Trout is one year older and more talented by light years both offensively and defensively. Statistically some may considered this to be a down year for Trout and it may still earn him the AL MVP. Trout is a once in a generation talent while Harper continues to develop. His potential is fascinating but no where near as interesting as Trout's. Nonetheless before we enshrine either of them in Cooperstown they both must prove themselves for many more years. Does anyone remember C�sar Cedeno?

Good comparison with Harper, but Cedeno never approached a season like either of Trout's.

clydepepper · #7 10-06-2014, 05:07 PM

Scott- Allow me to refresh your memory on Cesar Cedeno

1972 Age 21 - .320 BA ; .537 SLG ; 55 SB
1973 Age 22 - .320 BA ; .537 SLG ; 56 SB

While he did not reach these levels after 1973, these 2 seasons hitting in the Astrodome during a notoriously pitcher-friendly era, stand up well against Trout's first two seasons.

I'm not sure Cedeno would have ever done better than those two seasons, but we can't be sure that Trout can either.

Runscott · #8 10-06-2014, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by clydepepper

Scott- Allow me to refresh your memory on Cesar Cedeno

1972 Age 21 - .320 BA ; .537 SLG ; 55 SB
1973 Age 22 - .320 BA ; .537 SLG ; 56 SB

While he did not reach these levels after 1973, these 2 seasons hitting in the Astrodome during a notoriously pitcher-friendly era, stand up well against Trout's first two seasons.

I'm not sure Cedeno would have ever done better than those two seasons, but we can't be sure that Trout can either.

There is no comparison.

Even skipping his first two years as you did, Cedeno's numbers still don't hold a candle to Trout's - we both have MLB REF to look at, so there's no need to argue about it. Trout has comparable stolen base numbers, since that's a number you are grabbing, but was caught far, far less. Much better base runner than Cedeno. And HR's and RBI's are far superior for Trout...and that's using ALL of Trout's three full seasons.

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