Show...me...your print variations!

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by MikeGarcia

....don't know if this was reported before : the line above the name box is yellow on the white back and a thinner blue on the gray back...see it ?

Hey Mike,
Check out this thread I started a while back…
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=185244

[ALR-bishop]

Dick Gilkeson noted the line differences on the Williams card and several other cards in the 56 set in his variations publication some time back, 85 to 95 . And with ebay, the number of known cards with these lines has proliferated. I wonder if you looked long enough whether you could find them on all cards in the set.

I have a couple of examples in my set but Darren's prior thread convinced me it would drive me crazy trying to run down all the possible differences on just the Williams, let alone all the other cards in the set

Here are other 56 odditiies

[steve B]

I'd think most of the 56s would have the line differences. The Wiliams was in Nozakis book, along with maybe one or two others.

One of the good things about Ebay is that to some degree it lets us look at far more cards than we could have in the early 80's. A big collection might have a lot of cards, but hardly anyone went through them looking for little differences. And after a point dealer didn't keep them in stock by the boxful.

Steve B

[ALR-bishop]

with or without white "arm band". The white band is the scarcer of the two, but is not hard to find

[Cliff Bowman]

How did I miss this one on eBay? Did anyone here win it? It's the first 1974 that I have seen with this printing flaw, similar to the 1990 Topps Frank Thomas No Name.

[savedfrommyspokes]

I saw this card posted in another forum....has anyone ever seen a 69 Topps card like this with a grey back? Any ideas on how this card ended up with a grey back?

[ALR-bishop]

I have seen 2 other Mathews cards with this defect

[Exhibitman]

[mrmopar]

It's funny, I have started to go through my Dodgers (mostly post 1980) and I have been looking for these odd print dots and such. Unless you have a decent quantity to compare, it's hard to see the differences.

I remember a time when the funny cuts, blurry photos and other printing flaws were flat out garbage!

I also remember getting cards in the late 70s with little bits of what looked like rubber band pieces under the card surface. They would create a small bulge. I dug one out one time and found a small bit of this rubber band like material.

Interesting how eventually everything becomes collectible to someone.

[4reals]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

How did I miss this one on eBay? Did anyone here win it? It's the first 1974 that I have seen with this printing flaw, similar to the 1990 Topps Frank Thomas No Name.

That's great, Cliff! Probably means there's a couple different cards from the same sheet with that same characteristic.

[porkchops]

Enjoyed reading this thread .
Here's one I pulled .....

Ken

[ALR-bishop]

[ALR-bishop]

Some other 72s. I have dozens of print defects like these with my set.

[atx840]

Black star, found in my dads set he built as a kid.

[ALR-bishop]

So many fake father/grandfather finds on eBay, great to see a real deal, Chris,

[atx840]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

So many fake father/grandfather finds on eBay, great to see a real deal, Chris,

Thanks Al,

When my father decided to sell the set to help fund building his retirement cottage this card was a welcoming find. It now belongs to a great board member. I kept about half of the commons and his pack pulled Mantle.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Have not seen this print variation previously mentioned. Found this 66 Topps #51 Richardson card with a print line on the back....only 2 of the 20 or so copies on COMC have this line. It appears this line continues onto the card located above it on the sheet, which on the one uncut 66 sheet I located, is the #32 Phillips card. None of the Phillips cards I either have in my collection or have viewed show a continuation of this print line...does anyone out there have a Phillips card with this line??

[Bigb13]

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[brightair]

Sammy,
I found one of those Richardson cards on COMC and also a similar card for Phillips on ebay.
Richard D

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by brightair

Sammy,
I found one of those Richardson cards on COMC and also a similar card for Phillips on ebay.
Richard D

Richard, is the item number for the Phillips you found on ebay #281489727725? Glad to see your web page with the variations is already updated( I had checked there before posting).

[Cliff Bowman]

Found one.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Found one.

Nice find Cliff....how many copies did you go through to find the one?

Based on going through my own cards, COMC, and ebay listings showing backs, IMO, examples of these two cards with the print line on the back appear on approximately 1 of every 10-12 copies of each of these cards.

[brightair]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Richard, is the item number for the Phillips you found on ebay #281489727725? Glad to see your web page with the variations is already updated( I had checked there before posting).

That's right. It takes some patience to go through the listings one-by-one to see which ones put pictures of the back in the listing, but I was able to find one fairly quickly.

Wish they would make it more obvious how many photos are in a listing without having to open it up...

It was the only one I found of all for sale yesterday.

Thanks for pointing out this oddity, I updated my webpage listings right away!
Richard

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Nice find Cliff....how many copies did you go through to find the one?

Based on going through my own cards, COMC, and ebay listings showing backs, IMO, examples of these two cards with the print line on the back appear on approximately 1 of every 10-12 copies of each of these cards.

I had to go to everyones favorite seller's site, Dean's Cards, to find a couple of copies of them. It looks like there are two different versions, here's one where the line stops before it reachs the edge.

[brightair]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

I had to go to everyones favorite seller's site, Dean's Cards, to find a couple of copies of them. It looks like there are two different versions, here's one where the line stops before it reachs the edge.

Uh-oh.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

I had to go to everyones favorite seller's site, Dean's Cards, to find a couple of copies of them. It looks like there are two different versions, here's one where the line stops before it reachs the edge.

Nice find on the second version Cliff.....hopefully you bought before the prices get raised. I will have to remember Dean's site when looking for these print variants(as there are backs shown)....after looking through that site, the examples with line on across both cards might be 1 in 20 copies, while the Phillips with the partial line must be even tougher.

[ALR-bishop]

You guys are all crazy

[bnorth]

Got these 6 in the mail today.

[brightair]

Hi Ben,
What's the variation on the 1961 Alou?
Richard
brightair

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by brightair

Hi Ben,
What's the variation on the 1961 Alou?
Richard
brightair

No print error, it is cut way off center.

[1963Topps Set]

Here is an out of register card from my collection:

[1963Topps Set]

Here are some 1951 Bowman overprints

[1963Topps Set]

A couple of '56 overprints...

[bnorth]

Nice cards Tom and welcome to the forum.

[1963Topps Set]

Thanks, I have so much to share!

[TAVG]

not pre 1980s but i forgot i had this, was going through some of my older cardinals cards


looks like the red was just ran over the entire card

[Bigb13]

Hope you guys like this oneimage.jpg

[ALR-bishop]

I do like it. Can you tell if the Woodling has the lower border break, which would make it a print defect within a print defect

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by 1963Topps Set

A couple of '56 overprints...

Looks like ole Donnie and his ears met a couple of heavily lipsticked ladies the night before.

[Cliff Bowman]

The 1980 Topps Greg Pryor "no name" now has a cohort, 1980 Topps Doug Bair. I tried to show a 1980 Topps uncut A* sheet with Greg Pryor and Doug Bair on the top row, but I am unable to download it here. The Pryor is the first card on the top row, the Bair is the sixth card. My theory is that like the other 1980 Topps sheets that had the top row missing red ink and leaving names in yellow, this sheet ran out of blue ink but left almost no name rather than just a yellow name. Mike LaCoss is the eighth card on the row, so there should be a nameless 1980 Topps Mike LaCoss out there somewhere.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Cliff, does the Fred Stanley card appear on the same row as the Bair and Pryor?


Also, in an attempt to keep Richard busy (updating his variation list), I found this 58 Topps 278 Burk card with not just one, but two different print variations. I have not found a single card with both variations though.

The two cards pictured on the left (courtesy of DC), show a red print spot on the lower edge of the card's image. With a quick glance, I found only 3 copies with this red print spot between COMC, DC, & ebay. The second variation on this card is the red factory mark on the left edge....it is much more plentiful than the red print spot.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Cliff, does the Fred Stanley card appear on the same row as the Bair and Pryor?

Different sheets, the Pryor and the Bair are on the top row of the A* sheet, the Stanley and the Wathan are on the top row of the E* sheet, the Poquette, Braun, and Washington are on the top row of the F* sheet.

[ALR-bishop]

Saved---nice find on the Burk.

Cliff--interesting on the Bair. The Pryor can also be found with white of yellow position

[savedfrommyspokes]

Thank you Cliff and Al...

Here is another print variation I found buried in my collection today(it has been previously documented as lipstick on the shoulder), but I had never seen it before. I guess Gil and Mossi have similiar tastes in women??

[Cliff Bowman]

Couldn't pass up a very reasonable Buy-It-Now 1981 Topps Art Howe infamous "witch's hat" printing flaw card on eBay.

[ALR-bishop]

Very cool, Cliff

[Cliff Bowman]

A certain whale here has been holding out on us of the existence of this variation. Not that I would ever do that, though .

[ALR-bishop]

I posted this one on page 11

[brightair]

Saved - thanks for the Burks.
Al - I think I forgot to update the '64 Mathews on my list, so I will do it today along with the Burks.
Richard

[savedfrommyspokes]

Your welcome Richard...I noticed your list was missing this specific variation on the 63 Topps 102 White on Red Checklist. There is a print defect/variation on the front...the # "112" on the front of the two copies I located is partially obscured. I looked through a good number of copies between ebay/DCs and these were the only two I found.