Changing the Standard Catalo listing

[ALR-bishop]

I had regular dialogs with Bob Lemke about adding variations, and did get several added with his help, including the 67 Mantle Punch Out variants

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Also got him to add a 4th baseball item for the Topps 1954 baseball subset



I have not had any discussions about additions with the current editor, Tom Bartsch, but know others who have gotten such additions made through him.

Near the end of his tenure Bob Lemke developed a narrower definition of a variation and as a result removed some print defects that had been listed in the catalog. Mostly border breaks as I recall

Also the Standard Catalog information for the 1980 Topps Prototype Coins should be changed and updated showing the color variations for each of the coins and also how many are known to exist to date (only 12). Long over do for prices too

Originally Posted by rgpete

Also the Standard Catalog information for the 1980 Topps Prototype Coins should be changed and updated showing the color variations for each of the coins and also how many are known to exist to date (only 12). Long over do for prices too

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[ALR-bishop]

Not sure what they would change with that listing. The prices on these rare type items in the Catalog are always meaningless. The numbers are really an unknown as well. How would you have it read ?

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Not sure what they would change with that listing. The prices on these rare type items in the Catalog are always meaningless. The numbers are really an unknown as well. How would you have it read ?

Since the prices are meaningless and these are rarely sold, than the price listing should be blank with a qualifier as to why its blank with some explanation for not enough data or transactions. Now they can change how many coins exist in each color as per article from "thetoppsarchives blog" Catching Up on Coins and Cards March 10, 2010, which the list is from his research and or his known information about these

Carew Bronze 3
Garvey Bronze 1
Jackson Bronze 2 (plus one unconfirmed)
Carew Silver 1 (plus one unconfirmed)
Garvey Silver 2
Jackson Gold 3

ALR- bishop how did you come across your coins

[ALR-bishop]

I bought a gold colored Jackson on ebay from a guy, who then asked me what I would pay for a full set of 3 bronze ones. We talked price over a long period and I finally bought them. I then sort of traded the Jackson for another obscure Topps item.

Not sure why SCD lists the prices it does for some items, such as the 55 Stamps, 61 Dice, 66 Punch Outs, 70 Cloth, 71 Rookie Artists Proofs or the 77 Topps proofs. In some cases Bob Lemke would note an auction price paid for one of the items in one of those sets and I assume would then extrapolate prices for the others in some way. But I do not think any of us who try to collect any those give much thought to such prices in deciding how much to offer or spend.

For example I have never seen in person one of the Topps 1971 Rookie Artists Proof that Craig posted some time back. If he offered one of them, say the Munson, for sale I would expect anyone who wanted it would know they would have to spend more than the $750 listed in the Catalog to get it.

Actually, I would guess few people today use the Catalog as an accurate price guide for anything listed in it