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So, I know I am reviving a 12 year old thread. I came across this when I was searching about the scarcity of T212 back slogans, and then I came across it when I was searching about 150 subjects. I felt that this thread posed some great questions that were not really answered that well, and here I am, 12 years later, trying to find some of the same answers, with little results. I see where the answers here say to read articles in the Vintage and Classic Baseball Collectors magazine, but if you don't have access to those articles, well, where do you find your answers? So, some of the topics in this thread that I am still trying to find a good solid answer for:

1- Is there a solid checklist of the back slogans that is broken down by scarcity order (I know in T206, back scarcity is somewhat subjective, but overall, there are some mostly agreed upon lists)? Also, does anyone have a checklist that shows what players are available with which slogans?

2- How rare are the 150 series cards, can someone express an equivalent in other issues cards (from what I have seen, I personally guess at them in the same order of scarcity as T206 Piedmont Fac. 42, but that is a guess, I have no data to confirm or deny). It also seems to me that 150 series have become harder to find than 1909s, maybe because people hold on to the 150s now more than they used to 12 years ago?

3- I see a mention to a variation in this thread (J. Smith with white lettering, J.Smith with blue lettering), but I have no idea what the variation looks like. I have seen examples of the J. Smith 150 with Los Angeles in blue lettering, and have never seen it in white lettering. Can anyone expound on this variation? Also, I know there are other variations, does anyone have examples they could post showing variations? I have read about many of them, but there are never scans in the examples that I find (perhaps I am really bad at finding stuff). Also, if you can talk about the variations, which one would be the "chase"?

4- Roughly how many full sheets are known to exist, and are there full sheets from 1909, 1910 150 subjects, 175 subjects, and 1911? In other words, has a full sheet been found to cover all the players through all three years?

5- How much has been discovered about this set since this thread was started 12 years ago? Though my first pre-war card was a 1909 T212 LaLonge, I really haven't put much thought or effort into this set, picking up a cool piece here and there when it seemed like a good deal. Recently I bought a 1911 Kid Mohler, and this card is so nice, it has really made me start looking at Obak again.

I asked Leon if it was okay before I kicked this old thread back up, and he said it was okay. It seemed like a while since we had a good ol' fashioned Obak discussion. I'm getting psyched about PCL cards again, any suggestions for another PCL series needs talking about? Thanks for any input, and again, I am not any type of expert in these subjects, so if any of my guesses are dead wrong, feel free to say so, they are only guesses after all.
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