I got screwed over on the BST today!

I am very sorry Eric. As I mentioned in our PM's I will absolutely give you first crack at this card at the same price we agreed upon once I am able to find a suitable upgrade or replacement as a deal I had in place, which made this card available, was also reneged on. I'm not sure what else I can do. I don't get the issue with PayPal as I issued a straight refund, but I understand your frustration on all levels. Again, my sincerest apologies.

[T206Collector]

I just made a deal on the BST for an upgrade of my own, but I won't sell the lesser condition card until I get the upgrade in hand. This is a common phenomenon, and I don't really think anyone is to blame here in this instance.

[UnVme7]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

I just made a deal on the BST for an upgrade of my own, but I won't sell the lesser condition card until I get the upgrade in hand. This is a common phenomenon, and I don't really think anyone is to blame here in this instance.

Technically, yes. But a deal is a deal. The $$$ has switched hands. Probably should've waited to have card in hand, but that's still crummy to have a deal in place, accept the money and, "whoops sorry, something changed on my end. Refund!!"

If this was a $100 card, I'd say just move on, but it's not. Kind of a garbage move if you ask me.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Lame. Honor the deal.

[begsu1013]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Lame. Honor the deal.

agreed.

(for only the 3rd time, I think)

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by UnVme7

Technically, yes. But a deal is a deal. The $$$ has switched hands. Probably should've waited to have card in hand, but that's still crummy to have a deal in place, accept the money and, "whoops sorry, something changed on my end. Refund!!"

If this was a $100 card, I'd say just move on, but it's not. Kind of a garbage move if you ask me.

Yeah, I get that. I'm just saying it is not a safe practice to dump a card you love for an upgrade without getting the upgrade in hand first. Stuff happens. Postal workers screw up. Deals fall through after digital cash changes hands.

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

Yeah, I get that. I'm just saying it is not a safe practice to dump a card you love for an upgrade without getting the upgrade in hand first. Stuff happens. Postal workers screw up. Deals fall through after digital cash changes hands.

I agree with ya Paul, but really it's beside the main point...the fact the the OP sold his card without having the new one in-hand is on him, but a sale is a sale and backing out is a shitty move.

IMO Dan should definitely honor the sale and I'd expect him to wake up tomorrow morning and make this right. I have a bad feeling this isn't going to work out well for him otherwise.

[UnVme7]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

Yeah, I get that. I'm just saying it is not a safe practice to dump a card you love for an upgrade without getting the upgrade in hand first. Stuff happens. Postal workers screw up. Deals fall through after digital cash changes hands.

Yep, completely agree with that. But as far as backing out of deal, yeah that sucks.

[Jobu]

I agree that this was a sale unless both parties agreed to cancel it. I would like to see someone sell their house, get paid by the buyer, and then try to return the money and stay in the house because they decided they didn't want to move any more. I know a written contract wasn't signed over the Mick in this case, but a deal was struck and payment sent and received.

To try to put a positive spin on this for Eric, at least he got his money back (even if Paypal is holding it for a few days for some reason).

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by Gobucsmagic74

I am very sorry Eric. As I mentioned in our PM's I will absolutely give you first crack at this card at the same price we agreed upon once I am able to find a suitable upgrade or replacement as a deal I had in place, which made this card available, was also reneged on. I'm not sure what else I can do. I don't get the issue with PayPal as I issued a straight refund, but I understand your frustration on all levels. Again, my sincerest apologies.

What happened is you got a raw deal and someone screwed you over, so you decided to pass the screw onto someone else that you made a deal with. that is wrong. if someone backed out on your deal, you DONT back out on the deal you subsequently made. that deal was not dependent on whether or not you received your card from the first guy as far as cozmo is concerned. That wasn't your deal with him. When you make a deal and you don't have the card in hand from the first guy, YOU are assuming that risk. Why are you putting that risk on the next guy??? What's wrong with you?

You needed to honor your deal and then deal with the first guy and not ruin cozmo's day while yours is saved. the first guy didn't screw over cozmo, he screwed you over, so why pass it along to the next innocent party. Be a man. Not sure what you can do? Honor your deal. It's a big pet peeve of mine when people do that. You should be kicked out for doing that. Who needs that?

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by travrosty

What happened is you got a raw deal and someone screwed you over, so you decided to pass the screw onto someone else that you made a deal with. that is wrong. if someone backed out on your deal, you DONT back out on the deal you subsequently made. that deal was not dependent on whether or not you received your card from the first guy as far as cozmo is concerned. That wasn't your deal with him. When you make a deal and you don't have the card in hand from the first guy, YOU are assuming that risk. Why are you putting that risk on the next guy??? What's wrong with you?

You needed to honor your deal and then deal with the first guy and not ruin cozmo's day while yours is saved. the first guy didn't screw over cozmo, he screwed you over, so why pass it along to the next innocent party. Be a man. Not sure what you can do? Honor your deal. It's a big pet peeve of mine when people do that. You should be kicked out for doing that. Who needs that?

+1...BE A MAN!!!

I don't hate you Dan, but I hate what you did...no room for this on our board. I second that you should take a break from the BST

[chaddurbin]

wrong info.

[Kevin.Shenker]

Originally Posted by travrosty

What happened is you got a raw deal and someone screwed you over, so you decided to pass the screw onto someone else that you made a deal with. that is wrong. if someone backed out on your deal, you DONT back out on the deal you subsequently made. that deal was not dependent on whether or not you received your card from the first guy as far as cozmo is concerned. That wasn't your deal with him. When you make a deal and you don't have the card in hand from the first guy, YOU are assuming that risk. Why are you putting that risk on the next guy??? What's wrong with you?

You needed to honor your deal and then deal with the first guy and not ruin cozmo's day while yours is saved. the first guy didn't screw over cozmo, he screwed you over, so why pass it along to the next innocent party. Be a man. Not sure what you can do? Honor your deal. It's a big pet peeve of mine when people do that. You should be kicked out for doing that. Who needs that?

I would say this is a perfect assessment of the situation. You definitely passed the bad goods along.

[pclpads]

I know the heading over the BST says, "caveat emptor." But here it seems or should seem that caution isn't necessary. Obviously I am in error. Just my dos centavos, but I thing Gobucsmagic74 should be suspended from all activity on this board for a lengthy and substantial period. Too harsh? Don't think so. He deliberately and knowingly screwed a board member for his own self interests. In his twisted thinking, simply giving a PP refund makes it all ok. It doesn't. Not by a long shot.

[7nohitter]

Originally Posted by travrosty

What happened is you got a raw deal and someone screwed you over, so you decided to pass the screw onto someone else that you made a deal with. that is wrong. if someone backed out on your deal, you DONT back out on the deal you subsequently made. that deal was not dependent on whether or not you received your card from the first guy as far as cozmo is concerned. That wasn't your deal with him. When you make a deal and you don't have the card in hand from the first guy, YOU are assuming that risk. Why are you putting that risk on the next guy??? What's wrong with you?

You needed to honor your deal and then deal with the first guy and not ruin cozmo's day while yours is saved. the first guy didn't screw over cozmo, he screwed you over, so why pass it along to the next innocent party. Be a man. Not sure what you can do? Honor your deal. It's a big pet peeve of mine when people do that. You should be kicked out for doing that. Who needs that?

This. Thank you, Travis! At 5:00 a.m. I'm not awake enough to write something as clearly as Travis did, but this is my sentiment exactly.

Dan-you chose to pass on the screw job to someone else....

[glynparson]

Is 100% correct.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by Gobucsmagic74

I'm not sure what else I can do.

It's pretty simple, really. You can be a man, and honor your word. You may not get your replacement right away, and you may end up paying more than you would have. Is this card really worth ruining your reputation over?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

It's pretty simple, really. You can be a man, and honor your word. You may not get your replacement right away, and you may end up paying more than you would have. Is this card really worth ruining your reputation over?

That Dan did not even see that as an option -- thus the "what else can I do?" -- is pretty disturbing.