Need advice ASAP on PSA ticket grading

[megalimey]

THE LAY MAN /SLASH RICH COLLECTOR of tickets
likes to display there items being slabbed allows that, unlike the OLD school collector who stuffs them away in a box loosy goose , eventually dying and leaving no clue as to their value , family member sell them for pennies on the dollar , as they look like nothing special in an old scrapbook or in a cigar box
Slabbing tickets just like slabbing a Mantle rookie card is for the time it eventually gets sold long or soon after your dead , its about preserving the condition , would you by a 1851 Gold coin for more money Raw unslabbed
or a PCGS graded coin I know where I would spend my money
I agree there are very few fake tickets if any , but the new to the Hobby does not know that , and this are where the hobby is heading Up scale man caves
who have deep pockets
so can you just except this is where the high end part of the hobby is heading
there are a sprinkling of raw tickets sold for thousands verses 10s of thousands
sold for $1000s so obviously you non believers are in the very small minority

[smotan_02]

Originally Posted by megalimey

THE LAY MAN /SLASH RICH COLLECTOR of tickets
likes to display there items being slabbed allows that, unlike the OLD school collector who stuffs them away in a box loosy goose , eventually dying and leaving no clue as to their value , family member sell them for pennies on the dollar , as they look like nothing special in an old scrapbook or in a cigar box
Slabbing tickets just like slabbing a Mantle rookie card is for the time it eventually gets sold long or soon after your dead , its about preserving the condition , would you by a 1851 Gold coin for more money Raw unslabbed
or a PCGS graded coin I know where I would spend my money
I agree there are very few fake tickets if any , but the new to the Hobby does not know that , and this are where the hobby is heading Up scale man caves
who have deep pockets
so can you just except this is where the high end part of the hobby is heading
there are a sprinkling of raw tickets sold for thousands verses 10s of thousands
sold for $1000s so obviously you non believers are in the very small minority

I feel like I just witnessed something spectacular

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by megalimey

THE LAY MAN /SLASH RICH COLLECTOR of tickets
likes to display there items being slabbed allows that, unlike the OLD school collector who stuffs them away in a box loosy goose , eventually dying and leaving no clue as to their value , family member sell them for pennies on the dollar , as they look like nothing special in an old scrapbook or in a cigar box
Slabbing tickets just like slabbing a Mantle rookie card is for the time it eventually gets sold long or soon after your dead , its about preserving the condition , would you by a 1851 Gold coin for more money Raw unslabbed
or a PCGS graded coin I know where I would spend my money
I agree there are very few fake tickets if any , but the new to the Hobby does not know that , and this are where the hobby is heading Up scale man caves
who have deep pockets
so can you just except this is where the high end part of the hobby is heading
there are a sprinkling of raw tickets sold for thousands verses 10s of thousands
sold for $1000s so obviously you non believers are in the very small minority

If I had a dollar for every grammatical and logical error in this post I could afford to get all my tickets slabbed.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

If I had a dollar for every grammatical and logical error in this post I could afford to get all my tickets slabbed.

[Lordstan]

I think we have winner for the award for the least sensical and most grammatically incorrect post ever.

This type of post certainly helps to explain all the mistakes PSA makes. If they hire people who can't do something as basic as write the English language correctly, what should we really expect from them in the terms of quality?

I always love it when people keep regurgitating the fantasy that because you don't slab stuff that somehow it will sell for pennies on the dollar. I realize it is incomprehensible to some that an "old" school collector could actually speak to their family before they died about their collection or, God forbid, could have even taken a few minutes to write out some instructions for selling the stuff after they are gone...Nah. What I am thinking? Of course, us old school collectors don't have or don't speak with our families.

Also I was just wondering, does slabbing come with some sort of guarantee that an unscrupulous dealer won't try to rip off my family who tries to sell slabbed items?

Perhaps, those who constantly regale in stories of the sale power of slabbing should just look at the example of this very auction.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-Chicago...kAAOSwbPxXQbRT
They might want to read the description.
Parting with the ticket shown, as shown. The ticket was obtained from the area estate of an avid collector and game attendee who had saved items from the early 1900's forward. Ungraded.

OMG!!! It came out of an estate with no slabbing! Gee, I wonder how it is possible that it sold for $2850 when a board member's comparable slabbed version sold for $400 less, just 2mo earlier.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-World-S...sAAOSwyjBW5gT2

I wonder if the people from the Black Rock find feel like they sold their items for pennies on the dollar? Hmm. They were stored in a old shoebox. It's too bad their condition wasn't preserved. They might have made so much more money if they had been slabbed 20yrs ago. It would've been a great investment.

Originally Posted by megalimey

THE LAY MAN /SLASH RICH COLLECTOR of tickets
likes to display there items being slabbed allows that, unlike the OLD school collector who stuffs them away in a box loosy goose , eventually dying and leaving no clue as to their value , family member sell them for pennies on the dollar , as they look like nothing special in an old scrapbook or in a cigar box
Slabbing tickets just like slabbing a Mantle rookie card is for the time it eventually gets sold long or soon after your dead , its about preserving the condition , would you by a 1851 Gold coin for more money Raw unslabbed
or a PCGS graded coin I know where I would spend my money
I agree there are very few fake tickets if any , but the new to the Hobby does not know that , and this are where the hobby is heading Up scale man caves
who have deep pockets
so can you just except this is where the high end part of the hobby is heading
there are a sprinkling of raw tickets sold for thousands verses 10s of thousands
sold for $1000s so obviously you non believers are in the very small minority

[mcgwirecom]

Which would you prefer? (The display not the actual tickets) I don't think the PSA slab adds anything to display value. Just my opinion.

[Lordstan]

Agreed Randall.

[mcgwirecom]

OK, I love this one. The first picture is of a raw, ungraded Mickey Mantle debut ticket I sold on Ebay more than 10 years ago. I managed to get a tad over $4000 for it. The second photo is of LeLands auction for the SAME ticket in 2014. Not so much...

[ghooper33]

As someone who recently began collecting tickets I believe there are benefits other than adding value to the tickets when getting tickets graded. One of my favorite things to do is go into my basement and put the Braves game on and thumb through my collection (this year my cards/tickets are more interesting than the Braves ). In my opinion it is a must to label the holder with the significance of ticket, and my OCD kicks in when I have some cards in PSA holders and some cards in Card Saver 5s. I would just assume have them all in the same holder. Plus with the registry and digital albums I am able to scan pictures and view my collection at work or when I am out in a nice format.

This being said most of my tickets are under $100, and there is no way I am paying $25 per ticket to get them graded. I do enjoy the benefits I listed above but if I decided to sell my tickets I would never recoup the grading fees. I am not sure why there is such a premium for tickets vs cards but this will prevent me from seriously converting my ticket collection into PSA holders.

[Scott Garner]

"This being said most of my tickets are under $100, and there is no way I am paying $25 per ticket to get them graded. I do enjoy the benefits I listed above but if I decided to sell my tickets I would never recoup the grading fees. I am not sure why there is such a premium for tickets vs cards but this will prevent me from seriously converting my ticket collection into PSA holders"

Precisely

[ajenks3378]

Originally Posted by mcgwirecom

Which would you prefer? (The display not the actual tickets) I don't think the PSA slab adds anything to display value. Just my opinion.

The reason the psa one is very weak is the use of season passes and not actual stubs from the games...
True collector needs a stub from the game not just the season pass...
Andy

[mcgwirecom]

Originally Posted by ajenks3378

The reason the psa one is very weak is the use of season passes and not actual stubs from the games...
True collector needs a stub from the game not just the season pass...
Andy

I know but I was making the claim that the PSA cases are just plain ugly on a display.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by mcgwirecom

I know but I was making the claim that the PSA cases are just plain ugly on a display.

How True!!

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by mcgwirecom

I know but I was making the claim that the PSA cases are just plain ugly on a display.

Completely agree.

The slab itself is ugly, the wrinkled cellophane is hideous, and the Bar Code has no place in a vintage memorabilia display. By their very nature, bar codes clash with vintage items. I much prefer a simple screw-down holder (which PSA always discourages because of self-serving reasons.).

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Completely agree.

The slab itself is ugly, the wrinkled cellophane is hideous, and the Bar Code has no place in a vintage memorabilia display. By their very nature, bar codes clash with vintage items. I much prefer a simple screw-down holder (which PSA always discourages because of self-serving reasons.).

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Self serving? PSA? Oh my goodness,,, I learn something new here every single day
Thanks so much Mark for informing me.

[Exhibitman]

Again, not to defend the TPGs but I was very pleased with the care that PSA took in handling this ticket. The ticket was delicate and very tough to find (I've only seen two of them) and they did a good job for their fee. I felt it was a good value and I am very pleased with the result, especially since I can stop worrying about damaging the ticket with my klutz kung fu:

[keithsky]

Yeah why is it that PSA doesn't put tickets or whatever they slab in the same direction so all the labels are the same way? Makes no sense to just put the item in a slab with no regard to the direction of the label unless the customer asks for it in a certain direction. Say cards all on the right and the rest on left as an example. I have multiple things I wanted to display where the labels were in opposite direction and had to have them reslabbed. I bought the items already slabbed so it wasn't my fault not telling them. Stupid

[RichardSimon]

If I buy something in a slab,,, here is my solution.

[T_Hamilton]

All very helpful... seems split 50/50. Quite the polarizing topic. In my view, there is no harm in getting slabbed. And $125 is smart for the investment. The ticket is off to PSA!

Stay tuned!

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Lordstan

I think we have winner for the award for the least sensical and most grammatically incorrect post ever.

This type of post certainly helps to explain all the mistakes PSA makes. If they hire people who can't do something as basic as write the English language correctly, what should we really expect from them in the terms of quality?

I always love it when people keep regurgitating the fantasy that because you don't slab stuff that somehow it will sell for pennies on the dollar. I realize it is incomprehensible to some that an "old" school collector could actually speak to their family before they died about their collection or, God forbid, could have even taken a few minutes to write out some instructions for selling the stuff after they are gone...Nah. What I am thinking? Of course, us old school collectors don't have or don't speak with our families.

Also I was just wondering, does slabbing come with some sort of guarantee that an unscrupulous dealer won't try to rip off my family who tries to sell slabbed items?

Perhaps, those who constantly regale in stories of the sale power of slabbing should just look at the example of this very auction.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-Chicago...kAAOSwbPxXQbRT
They might want to read the description.
Parting with the ticket shown, as shown. The ticket was obtained from the area estate of an avid collector and game attendee who had saved items from the early 1900's forward. Ungraded.

OMG!!! It came out of an estate with no slabbing! Gee, I wonder how it is possible that it sold for $2850 when a board member's comparable slabbed version sold for $400 less, just 2mo earlier.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-World-S...sAAOSwyjBW5gT2

I wonder if the people from the Black Rock find feel like they sold their items for pennies on the dollar? Hmm. They were stored in a old shoebox. It's too bad their condition wasn't preserved. They might have made so much more money if they had been slabbed 20yrs ago. It would've been a great investment.

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