1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 3 Available in Complete 1952 Topps Set Break at National

[pokerplyr80]

To be fair those emails don't contain any threats, just some insensitive jokes. But Scott it does appear you lack the temperament to be a company spokesman. If I was running just collect I would be putting someone else in charge of public communication. Before your reputation is completely ruined on this board and in the hobby in general addressing the problems with this break and issuing timely refunds might help. This whole situation is really a shame because a 52 Topps set break would have been awesome. Hopefully someone will be able to put one together.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

To be fair those emails don't contain any threats, just some insensitive jokes. But Scott it does appear you lack the temperament to be a company spokesman. If I was running just collect I would be putting someone else in charge of public communication. Before your reputation is completely ruined on this board and in the hobby in general addressing the problems with this break and issuing timely refunds might help. Thus whole situation is really a shame because a 52 Topps set break would have been awesome. Hopefully someone will be able to put one together.

I agree. A 1952 break would have been awesome. The price point just wasn't there. Burl from Burl's sports runs some awesome set breaks. I would think he makes a good deal from doing them, as he does them all the time, and obviously makes more breaking them up than he did buying the set. There is a difference between making a good profit and making an obscene killing. Not saying that this set falls in the "oscene" category, but it sure SEEMS like it. How much is a low grade 1952 set realistically worth?

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I agree. A 1952 break would have been awesome. The price point just wasn't there. Burl from Burl's sports runs some awesome set breaks. I would think he makes a good deal from doing them, as he does them all the time, and obviously makes more breaking them up than he did buying the set. There is a difference between making a good profit and making an obscene killing. Not saying that this set falls in the "oscene" category, but it sure SEEMS like it. How much is a low grade 1952 set realistically worth?

Bobby:

I was curious so I did some numbers.

In very simple math for this break. If one purchased 2 or more slots they were $349.99 which we will round up to $350 for this purpose. Since the 1952 Set has 407 cards we will round that down to 400 cards for this part of the exercise.

Therefore 200 times 350 is $70,000 and with some people taking only one space and the few extra sales the gross would be about $75K

I don't think the profit is that much on a complete 52 set at $75 K especially with all the graded high numbers.

Perception is far worse than reality on that price point. And if 23K was what was spent on the Mantle -- then the price point made sense.

Just a shame the rest of this whole venture went south

Rich

[Peter_Spaeth]

Rich I don't follow your math although I may be missing something. 407 slots times 350 per slot is over 140K gross?

[BengoughingForAwhile]

349.99 x 407= $142,445.93

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Rich I don't follow your math although I may be missing something. 407 slots times 350 per slot is over 140K gross?

LOL, I seen that also. I figured Rich has not had his second cup of coffee yet.

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by bnorth

LOL, I seen that also. I figured Rich has not had his second cup of coffee yet.

Dead on, multiply my numbers by 2 and the answer is $140K -- I need that second jolt of caffeine. Trust me, I'm noticing that in my real life work as well. Coke zero time -- here we come

[Rich Klein]

Now that we using $150K as our price point for selling out this break

Let's see where the rest of this goes

$23K on Mantle -- assuming that is correct

96 other 52 High Numbers and let's say $100 each for decent looking copies

$9600 and since there are better cards such as Jackie, Roy and Eddie #407 lets make this double for $19K

310 other cards -- at an average of $20 each for collectible cards

$6200 and for argument's sake -- let's even make this full book for the easiest series commons at $40 each and this would be $12.4K

So

23K
19K
12.4K

54.4 K

and for fun -- let's add another 25 percent

54.4 K plus 13.6 K - Rounding to make even

68K

So the $150K for selling every slot is probably a double which is not outrageous for any company with overhead. I suspect Justin can probably do his percent a bit tighter as his work is probably a leaner operation

So I hope I got my math right this time

What percent would YOU make if you spent about 70K to build a 52 Set and wanted to do a break.

Oh, and as for the comment about how few cards are worth the money -- isn't that the whole point of Power Ball, Mega Millions and all those other lotteries.

Regards
Rich

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Rich I don't follow your math although I may be missing something. 407 slots times 350 per slot is over 140K gross?

As i do collect a lot of 1952s...the chance of getting a card that was worth more than the slot price if were going to sell it in a pwcc/ebay auction the next week was very very small. There are no psa 6 high number commons that you can net $350 (save for 1 or 2 if super super centered) for example and i thought most of the cards were psa 5 or worse in high number. However the mickey and #407 etc would be a big steal. so there would be some big winners, but maybe for the slot price of $350 or so, there just were not enough consolation prizes to help sell the slots fast.

[shammus]

Those posts are definitely "iffy" at best and a couple could easily be construed as offensive. If I'm the "face" or spokesman of a company, those are not the sort of posts I believe I would be making if I'm trying to positively build myself and my company up in the community.

Just Collect may want to reconsider the approach they take when advertising publically like this. This thread as well as the "...will pay 70% of the value of your cards..." campaign were very poorly received on Net54 and it's safe to say did way more harm than good.

Also, the moderator in me is concerned about the potential for harassing, bullying emails as those are definitely a no-no. Gotta keep the community safe and keep this a fun place to collect cards after all. I hope there isn't any of that going on....

[cincyredlegs]

Guys, give it a rest. I feel like I am on the CU boards.

If anyone should be offended it is all of us tired of the freaking WHINING the last two days. Enough already.

Mark

[bobbyw8469]

The CU boards is more like SGC these days. But, understood.

[Rich Klein]

As a Jewish person living in the exact area Scott mentioned in his email, I'm very disappointed in his lack of sensitivity towards faiths other than his.

Regards
Rich

[HRBAKER]

I personally find the "Congratulations" poster in infinitely poorer taste than the "dead cat" photo that rankled so many feathers but that's just me.

[KingFisk]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

I personally find the "Congratulations" poster in infinitely poorer taste than the "dead cat" photo that rankled so many feathers but that's just me.

+1000, though it wasn't originally posted here. But still.

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